[hv=pc=n&e=skj7hqt9842dk52c9&d=s&v=n&b=15&a=p1hp]133|200[/hv] MPs. If you're playing bergen raises, where a 3m bid promises 4 card support and a certain point range, while a double raise is weak, how would you bid this? The problem is, this is a 6 card limit raise. If partner has something like ♠ Ax ♥ AKxxx ♦ QJx ♣ xx Then you want to play in 4♥. If partner has roughly ♠ Qxx ♥ AJxxx ♦ Qxx ♣ Kx Then he'll want to pass quickly. If partner has a bigger hand like ♠ Qxxx ♥ AKxxxx ♦ AQx ♣ - Then he'll make a slam try. (yes, I gave both sides 12 card fits) So how do I invite with this support? Do I lie about my trump count?