i want to add some illumination to this thread and perhaps remove any ambiguity to his comment 'Imbicil' is a Polish vernacular spoken near Krakov and is an intransitive verb literally translated as 'I am a *****'. For any further philological interpretations, please do not fail to contact me Yours faithfully Alex PS Out of curiosity, how many Polish people does it take to bid 4♦. Re another post in this thread i too was [notice tense] married to a Polish woman. She changed one light bulb during the whole of our relationship. Pity it was the bulb in the wrong bedroom. :o sigh