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AQx ATxxxx Kx Kx r/w imps. Do you open 1N? If you open 1H what are you rebidding over 1S by pard? What about 1N by pard?

Justin, I would have expected a better answer than this from you. meh I don't think it's my duty to point out every argument for every side of the argument. You're the lawyer I thought you'd agree! I think non serious 3N is better because of what I said, and I obviously don't think it's very close given my post. If you think it's close you're welcome to say so and explain why but then we go to orlams post :rolleyes: If I had to post every argument and everything about the argument I would have noted that 3S should be used as the serious/non serious over hearts. But yes, I pretty much could always make a better or more thorough post.

Non serious 3N is better because on hands where it's just a game deal no cuebidding happens (3N, signoff). Serious 3N leads to cuebidding sometimes when you aren't even that close to slam which could cause a killing lead or lead directing double to beat game.

sounds rather expensive in appeal deposits lol really? I guess I'm crazy because it seems way more likely partner is deciding what to do with xxx Qxxx xxx xxx, or has bid 3S with Kxx xxx xxx xxxx than that partner has a hand that wants to bid 4 when they think and bid 3. Guess this is why I bid 4? lol

Why would we pass 3N ever with a heart fit and a prime hand. I would probably cuebid 4D.

wow nice post ken!

my dad used to think X should be penalty here, but I much prefer takeout. If you can beat them you just don't double.

3S

LOL

You wouldn't bid NV over a 2♠ opening on your right either? (assume partner isn't a passed hand, which is is sort of not here). No

my partner would argue that a slow 3 spades usually suggests a 3 card suit so he felt ethically obliged to raise to 4

I'd bid 1N

definitely bid this red game

ya jdonn

Yep, QJ tight should be downgraded and it's already 11 points to begin with. I couldn't see opening it in a normal style.

don't flatter yourself :P

yep

yes, wtp pass.

mixed obv

thank you

1N 3D 3H 3S 4C 4H 4S 5N 6C 3D 55 minors GF, 3H shortness ask, 3S short hearts. South maybe has a 7C bid the way the auction went over 5N, but thats strange.

no

Agree with 3D...we do have 6 of them. I think jdonn actually never balances anymore :)

Easy pass. Partner can bid his stiff club too.

hell no except in precision.