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GIB inexplicably takes false preference
virgosrock replied to wbartley's topic in GIB Robot Discussion
what was the description of 2H? just curious vrock -
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2C sucks :) if worried about 1s-p-p-p open 4S what the heck. w/o running simulations i think 1s-all pass will be a low percentage. vrock
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sm, as usual, is right. A hover over 3D might have solved this. vrock
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This is the hand in all its glory. [hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=pn%7CHUMANOID%2CVirgosRock%2CRobotN%2CRobotE%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C4S4QH68TJQD46C56KA%2CS3679TJH3D57TAC29%2CS25H79KAD39JQC47T%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard+10%7Csv%7Cb%7Cmb%7C1C%7Can%7CMinor+suit+opening+--+3%2B+%21C%3B+11-21+HCP%3B+12-22+total+points+%7Cmb%7C1H%7Can%7COne-level+overcall+--+5%2B+%21H%3B+8-17+HCP%3B+9%7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7CFree+bid+--+5%2B+%21S%3B+6%2B+total+points%3B+forc%7Cmb%7C2C%7Can%7CGood+support+in+H+--+3%2B+%21H%3B+11%2B+total+points+%7Cmb%7Cd%21%7Can%7CSupport+double+-+3+S+--+3%2B+%21C%3B+3+%21S%3B+11-21+HCP%3B+12-22+total+points+%7Cmb%7C2H%7Can%7C5%2B+%21H%3B+8-17+HCP%3B+9-19+total+points%7Cmb%7C3S%7Can%7CThe+Law%3A+9+trump+-%3E+3+level+--+6%2B+%21S%3B+9-%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4H%7Can%7C5%2B+%21H%3B+13-17+HCP%3B+14-19+total+points%7Cmb%7C4S%7Can%7C6%2B+%21S%3B+12%2B+HCP%3B+12-+total+points%7Cmb%7Cd%7Can%7C3%2B+%21H%3B+11%2B+total+points+%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cmc%7C8%7C%0A%0A]399|300[/hv] Note GIBBY double with AKxx in hearts. Underscores my favorite hypothesis about such doubles Highly invitational in our suit and leaves it up to you. I think HUMANOID's 4H with Qx in spades was decepetively brilliant. You? vrock
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8 years or so ago GIB used to lead low-hi from doubletons especially in the middle of play rarely on opening leads. These days for sure it does lead low from T/J/Q x. not always but noticeably enough. Throws partner's defense off. vrock
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some kind of nonsensical sense to it. first double quite weak. smerriman has not supported spades and not bid 2NT or new suit. partner has not passed the double. just pass and hope for the best? vrock
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last 6 months for sure GIBBO has not led middle from 3 small. Not fixing this description in the URL is serious lack of customer (are we non-paying customers ?) service. If same applies to GIBugs gawdhelpus. vrock
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if 17 hcp is not enough, followed by a takeout to a good suit, what is enough? vrock
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Just moving this up the list since got 0 views 0 replies. Maybe justifiably LOL vrock
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Please post with hv= stuff next time so we can see the whole picture. thanks vrock
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Can we just change the definition of GIBBO double? GIBug
virgosrock replied to virgosrock's topic in GIB Robot Discussion
I was ONLY talking about GIBBO doubles of the type I have posted OFTEN. vrock -
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Too strong to overcall, not strong enough to bid again?
virgosrock replied to helene_t's topic in GIB Robot Discussion
i am speechless. Will let jdonn/smerriman/tu figure out the GIBug here. vrock -
marginal 4S I think. Plus GIBBO normally passes 8 hcp hands unless has 5431 shape i.e. the 4 is a major and 5 is a minor. I say marginal since 3 club losers, find sQ, and 1 heart loser. even if find sq i see 5 spade tricks, 3D and 1H. fraught with peril. vrock
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A d rebid would show 5+ length and some hcp. This cue bid is something GIBBO does very often in such cases. vrock [hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=pn%7Cvirgosrock%2Cvoloda1%2CRobotN%2CRobotE%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C2S68AH23QKAD4KC38J%2CS37TQKH8JD27AC6TA%2CS249H59D389JQC57K%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard+8%7Csv%7Co%7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7CMajor+suit+opening+--+5%2B+%21S%3B+11-21+HCP%3B+%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cd%7Can%7C3%2B+%21C%3B+3%2B+%21D%3B+3%2B+%21H%3B+9%2B+HCP%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2D%7Can%7C4%2B+%21D%3B+13-+total+points+%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2H%7Can%7C5%2B+%21H%3B+18%2B+total+points%7Cmb%7C2S%7Can%7C6%2B+%21S%3B+21-+HCP%3B+15-22+total+points%7Cmb%7C3S%7Can%7C4%2B+%21D%3B+3%2B+%21H%3B+6%2B+HCP%3B+7-13+total+points%3B+forcing+%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4H%7Can%7C5%2B+%21H%3B+17%2B+HCP%3B+18-19+total+points%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpg%7C%7C%0A%0A]399|300[/hv]
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Well here is the hand in all its glory. Assign blame for bidding (not the initial take out double) and defense. [hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=pn%7CGOOD_HUMAN%2Cvirgosrock%2CRobotN%2CRobotE%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C4S24TKAH24QDTC246Q%2CS9H39JD389QKAC7JA%2CS3567JQHKAD57C38T%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard+2%7Csv%7Cn%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7CMajor+suit+opening+--+5%2B+%21S%3B+11-21+HCP%3B+%7Cmb%7Cd%7Can%7CTakeout+double+--+3-5+%21C%3B+3-5+%21D%3B+3-4+%21H%7Cmb%7C2N%21%7Can%7CTruscott+%28Jordan%29+--+3%2B+%21S%3B+11%2B+total+points+%7Cmb%7C3H%7Can%7CFree+bid%3B+new+suit+--+4%2B+%21H%3B+6-10+total+points+%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4D%7Can%7Crebiddable+%21D%3B+17%2B+total+points%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4S%7Can%7C5%2B+%21S%3B+13%2B+HCP%3B+14-19+total+points%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cd%7Can%7C4%2B+%21H%3B+7%2B+HCP%3B+8-9+total+points+%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpg%7C%7Cmc%7C10%7C%0A%0A]399|300[/hv] vrock
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You are playing with an alien LOL vrock
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hahaha! finally someone with a sense of humor on this forum LOL vrock
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ok. So dumb 'ol me doubled. I thought I should keep hearts and clubs in play. LHO GIB bids 2NT jordan/truscott and myGIB bids 3H(6-10 total points). RHO passes. I bid 4D blurb shows 17+ total points. LHOGibby passes and RHO bids 4S. I pass, lefty GIBBO passes, my GIBBO doubles 7 HCP 8-9 total points. RHO passes. Your bid? vrock
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good idea to read blurbs. unless you are saying this is a feature that needs to be added. vrock
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They are vul, you are not. p-1S- to you. Your hand: S 9 H Jxx D AKQ983 C AJx your bid? I opted for double instead of 2D. vrock
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exactly. I assume 7 HCP. vrock
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I think GIBBO is happy if you bid 3NT over 3D. the blurb if I remember is 16-22 or something. vrock
