virgosrock

why did westbot pull? seems like 4S is the least down LOL vrock

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as would my refrigerator :) though the bad weak 2D took away a lot of GIBBO's options. vrock

The problem in all these type of problems is there is no invite to give partner a chance. GIBBO just jumps to game. Especially in pass-and-murder partner later situations. vrock

looks like i should pass 2d then? or pass 1Nx where because of defensive carding they always make 1 to 3 overtricks in my experience OR just bid 3c over 2D. yes, all finesses on but no entries to take them. i suppose if i have a king it will make 4H even with the terrible break. good by gibby. is 2c ok or pass? id 2d pass ok or bid 3c? vrock

and yet one of the stephens gets better results from old GIB on PC. vrock

yup. canape of course. how will we ever understand this? :) vrock

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preposterous is right. possibly the millionth time GIBBO passes with such hands. seems to be a pretty easy bug-fix. vrock

underbid = has a K and a Q ? this seems to be borderline and purely simulation-based. vrock

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the passers were all GIB_BBO's? vrock

my sympathies. GIBBO is nuts. I wonder what the rationale for pass is. Jdonn? vrock

what was the bidding sequence for your old PC GIB thanks vrock

well nigel, gibbo's 4S in this sequence is almost 100% 5S. therefore the double is not THAT risky. pard is marked with some lengt5h somewhere. vrock

i don't know stephen. highest/slowest setting in money bridge. vrock

clubs must be 3-2 for this to make so cashing 2 early clubs is ok. i thought GIBBO took a ruff early thinking there was a stiff d on its left. but then it ruffed a club with the 2 or 3. suicidal line of play. vrock

yes, my bad. i should just bid 3C. vrock

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these inv minor sequences are so confusing, i would have opted for 1c-3s splinter vrock

here the hand is in all its glory. i was lucky 6s was not redoubled. [hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=pn%7Cvirgosrock%2CUMAN%2CRobotN%2CRobotE%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C2SQH29JQAD4TKC368K%2CS459TKAH458TKDACA%2CS7H367D679JQC279T%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard+16%7Csv%7Ce%7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7CMajor+suit+opening+--+5%2B+%21S%3B+11-21+HCP%3B+%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4S%7Can%7CPreemptive+raise+--+5%2B+%21S%3B+8-+HCP%3B+4%2B+total+points+%7Cmb%7Cd%7Can%7CTakeout+double+--+4%2B+%21H%3B+16%2B+total+point%7Cmb%7Cr%7Can%7C5%2B+%21S%3B+21-+HCP%3B+21-22+total+points%7Cmb%7C5D%7Can%7C4%2B+%21D%3B+16-+total+points+%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C6S%7Can%7C5%2B+%21S%3B+21+HCP%3B+22+total+points%7Cmb%7Cd%7Can%7C4%2B+%21D%3B+8%2B+HCP%3B+9-16+total+points+%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpg%7C%7C%0A%0A]399|300[/hv]

i passed 4Hx to let GIBBO make other cuebid(s). Note 7D is cold. and was doubled. Don't know what GIBBO was thinking. 3D is kinda borderline. Normally I would expect GIBBO to have a more robust d suit. vrock

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open 2c? vrock

you are in luck. it merely shows 16+ "points" where "points" are the worst idea ever. now what? vrock