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My opponent doubled 4♠, that was even worse, as the bot had no problem in taking 10 tricks
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I don't think this explanation is valid [hv=pc=n&s=skhakq84dq97cq763&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=1dp1h3sp4s?]133|200[/hv] Now that is a difficult hand, as Double is not known by GIB. I considered bidding 4N, and the explanation of that is: Unusual notrump, 5+♣, 5+♦, 4+♥, 18+ total points, forcing. Well I not only considered it, I bid 4N, and North bid 5♣, not showing ♣, but a cuebid, but not mentioning what was trump. Testing my options now I can see that 5♥ also would be a cuebid, so probably it is ♦, that is trump. So I decided to signoff in 5♦, and what happened now? Well North bid naturally 7♦, just one down, perhaps I should have tried to sign off with 6♦ [hv=url=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=st||pn|~~https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=st||pn|~~v3fakebot,~~v3fakebot,Bot,~~v3fakebot|md|3SKHAKQ84DQ97CQ763,SAQ96532HD854CJ85,SJH76DAKJT32CAKT9,ST874HJT9532D6C42|sv|n|rh||ah|Board%205|mb|1D|an|Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203+%20!D;%2011-21%20HCP;%2012-22%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|1H|an|One%20over%20one%20--%204+%20!H;%206+%20total%20points|mb|3S|an|Aggressive%20weak%20jump%20overcall%20--%206+%20!S;%2010-%20HCP;%203+%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|4S|an|2+%20!S;%2016-%20total%20points|mb|4N|an|Unusual%20notrump%20--%205+%20!C;%205+%20!D;%204+%20!H;%2018+%20total%20points;%20forcing|mb|P|mb|5C|an|Cue%20bid%20--%203+%20!D;%2021-%20HCP;%20!CA;%2013-22%20total%20points;%20forcing|mb|P|mb|5D|an|5+%20!C;%205+%20!D;%204+%20!H;%2018%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|7D|an|3+%20!D;%2021-%20HCP;%20!CA;%2018-22%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|P|mb|P|pc|S4|pc|SK|pc|SA|pc|SJ|pc|C8|pc|CT|pc|C2|pc|C3|mc|12|,~~v3fakebot,Bot, Bot,~~v3fakebot|md|3SKHAKQ84DQ97CQ763,SAQ96532HD854CJ85,SJH76DAKJT32CAKT9,ST874HJT9532D6C42|sv|n|rh||ah|Board%205|mb|1D|an|Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203+%20!D;%2011-21%20HCP;%2012-22%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|1H|an|One%20over%20one%20--%204+%20!H;%206+%20total%20points|mb|3S|an|Aggressive%20weak%20jump%20overcall%20--%206+%20!S;%2010-%20HCP;%203+%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|4S|an|2+%20!S;%2016-%20total%20points|mb|4N|an|Unusual%20notrump%20--%205+%20!C;%205+%20!D;%204+%20!H;%2018+%20total%20points;%20forcing|mb|P|mb|5C|an|Cue%20bid%20--%203+%20!D;%2021-%20HCP;%20!CA;%2013-22%20total%20points;%20forcing|mb|P|mb|5D|an|5+%20!C;%205+%20!D;%204+%20!H;%2018%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|7D|an|3+%20!D;%2021-%20HCP;%20!CA;%2018-22%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|P|mb|P|pc|S4|pc|SK|pc|SA|pc|SJ|pc|C8|pc|CT|pc|C2|pc|C3|mc|12|]399|300[/hv]
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[hv=url=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&lin=pn%7CHuman%2CRobot%2CRobot%2CRobot%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C1ST6HAJ43DK2CKQJ82%2CSAK87HQ52DAJ984CT%2CSQJH986DT763C6543%2CS95432HKT7DQ5CA97%7Csv%7CB%7Cah%7CBoard%207%7Cmb%7C1N%7Can%7Cnotrump%20opener.%20Could%20have%205M.%20--%202-5%20%21C%3B%202-5%20%21D%3B%202-5%20%21H%3B%202-5%20%21S%3B%2015-17%20HCP%3B%2018-%20total%20points%7Cmb%7C2S%21%7Can%7CCappelletti%20-%20spades%20and%20a%20minor%20--%203-%20%21H%3B%204%2B%20%21S%3B%2011%2B%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C3C%7Can%7C5%20%21C%3B%202-3%20%21D%3B%202-4%20%21H%3B%202-4%20%21S%3B%2017%20HCP%3B%2018-%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CD%7Can%7CTakeout%20double%20--%202-%20%21C%3B%203%2B%20%21D%3B%203%20%21H%3B%204%2B%20%21S%3B%2016%2B%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C3H%7Can%7C4%2B%20%21H%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CS9%7C]399|300[/hv] Seems the Bot fell in the trap normally for human players. With a good hand bid a new suit instead of showing support. I think the right bid is 4♠ With 6♠ making playing 3♥ down 3 isn't bridge
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I just found another situation, where the major-fit vanished [hv=url=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&lin=pn%7CRobot%2CRobot%2CRobot%2CRobot%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C1saqt92h3daqjcaqt2%2Cs73ha8752d9753c84%2Csk65h964dk4ckj973%2Csj84hkqjtdt862c65%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7Cboard%203%7Csv%7Ce%7Cmb%7C1s%7Can%7Cmajor%20suit%20opening%20--%205%2B%20%21s%3B%2011-21%20hcp%3B%2012-22%20total%20points%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1n%7Can%7Cforcing%20one%20notrump%20--%203-%20%21s%3B%206%2B%20hcp%3B%2012-%20total%20points%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3c%7Can%7Cstrong%20hand%20--%204%2B%20%21c%3B%205%2B%20%21s%3B%2018-21%20hcp%3B%2019-22%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%203n%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C5c%7Can%7C4%2B%20%21c%3B%203-%20%21s%3B%2010-12%20total%20points%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7Cha%7Cpc%7Ch6%7Cpc%7Chk%7Cpc%7Ch3%7Cpc%7Ch8%7Cpc%7Ch4%7Cpc%7Cht%7Cpc%7Cc2%7Cpc%7Cct%7Cpc%7Cc4%7Cpc%7Cc3%7Cpc%7Cc6%7Cpc%7Ccq%7Cpc%7Cc8%7Cpc%7Ccj%7Cpc%7Cc5%7Cpc%7Cs2%7Cpc%7Cs7%7Cpc%7Csk%7Cpc%7Cs4%7Cpc%7Cd4%7Cpc%7Cd2%7Cpc%7Cdq%7Cpc%7Cd7%7Cpc%7Cdj%7Cpc%7Cd9%7Cpc%7Cdk%7Cpc%7Cdt%7Cpc%7Cs6%7Cpc%7Cs8%7Cpc%7Csa%7Cpc%7Cs3%7Cpc%7Csq%7Cpc%7Ch2%7Cpc%7Cs5%7Cpc%7Csj%7Cpc%7Cst%7Cpc%7Cd5%7Cpc%7Ch9%7Cpc%7Cd8%7Cpc%7Cs9%7Cpc%7Ch7%7Cpc%7Cck%7Cpc%7Cd6%7Cpc%7Cc9%7Cpc%7Chq%7Cpc%7Cca%7Cpc%7Ch5%7Cpc%7Cda%7Cpc%7Cd3%7Cpc%7Cc7%7Cpc%7Chj%7C]399|300[/hv] When I played the hand I bid 6♣ on the south hand, as the simulation in my head gave 6♣ good chances But strange with that 5♣ bid.
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I wonder if someone gave GIB a lecture about penalty doubles :-) Semifinal in the Romanian Challenge, a 32 board match, and I am trailing with 6IMP before the last board (44-50) (Noone knows the score, but I was trailing with 16 after first set, but this set was OK, so I assumed it was close) I pick up this hand [hv=pc=n&s=s932haqj653da8cq4&d=w&v=e&b=16&a=1c1sp?]133|200[/hv] I think a new suit at the 2-level normally is forcing, but the tooltip explains 2♥ as 5+♥, 2-♠ and 9-13 points. But with the very light overcall style from the bot, even when vulnerable, i decided to bid 2♥, intending to bid the some game on next round, but was left there to play [hv=url=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&lin=pn%7CThorvald%2CRobot%2CRobot%2CRobot%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C2S932HAQJ653DA8CQ4%2CSH72DKQT72CAJ8762%2CSAJ765HT98DJ94CK9%2CSKQT84HK4D653CT53%7Csv%7CE%7Cah%7CBoard%2016%7Cmb%7C1C%7Can%7CMinor%20suit%20opening%20--%203%2B%20%21C%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points%7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7COne-level%20overcall%20--%205%2B%20%21S%3B%208-17%20HCP%3B%209-19%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C2H%7Can%7C5%2B%20%21H%3B%202-%20%21S%3B%209-13%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cmc%7C10%7C]399|300[/hv] Seeing dummy even with a ♦-lead it seems 2♥ to be the right contract, but with ♥K in east there was 10 tricks.(Only 10 HCP in the opening hand) But now look at the replay [hv=url=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&lin=pn%7CHuman%2CRobot%2CRobot%2CRobot%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C2S932HAQJ653DA8CQ4%2CSH72DKQT72CAJ8762%2CSAJ765HT98DJ94CK9%2CSKQT84HK4D653CT53%7Csv%7CE%7Cah%7CBoard%2016%7Cmb%7C1C%7Can%7CMinor%20suit%20opening%20--%203%2B%20%21C%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points%7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7COne-level%20overcall%20--%205%2B%20%21S%3B%208-17%20HCP%3B%209-19%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C2C%7Can%7CGood%20support%20in%20S%20--%203%2B%20%21S%3B%2010%2B%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C2S%7Can%7C5%2B%20%21S%3B%208%2B%20HCP%3B%209-13%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CD%7Can%7C10%2B%20HCP%3B%20biddable%20%21S%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C3C%7Can%7C3-%20%21S%3B%20biddable%20%21C%3B%2013-17%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C3H%7Can%7C3%2B%20%21H%3B%203%2B%20%21S%3B%20Q%2B%20in%20%21H%3B%2013-15%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C3S%7Can%7C5%2B%20%21S%3B%208%2B%20HCP%3B%209-11%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CD%7Can%7C3%2B%20%21C%3B%2010%2B%20HCP%3B%20biddable%20%21S%3B%2011-%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CDT%7C]399|300[/hv] My opponent decided to show the hands as good support in ♠ and 10+ HCP (Understandable), and North rebid 2♠ to show a minimum hand. Now East found a penalty Double - not often seen. West retreated to 3♣, and after Pass-Pass it was now South that had the problem Bid 3♠ after being penalty doubled in 2♠, or selling out to 3♣ (Seems making) I think bidding 3♥ is the right bridge way, but the Bot will always just see that as some trial bid as there is an established fit in ♠ So North bid 3♠ When I looked at this deal the first time I assumed that Easts Double of 3♠ was penalty, but reading the tooltip it suddenly shows 3+♣ - so I am not so sure it was intended as penalty But 3♠X was 2 down, and 10 IMP for me winning the match by 4
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Playing semifinal in the Hungarian Bridge contest, and getting to the last board with this hand [hv=pc=n&s=saha852dkq985cj82&d=w&v=e&b=16&a=pp1sd4spp?]133|200[/hv] Your bid? Letting the bot play 4Ma vulnerable or try to steal the board by bidding 5♦? Double again for T/O is not an option. Well even in bridge against the bots it is a good idea to play bridge if you want to be better, so I decided to pass [hv=url=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=st||pn|Thorvald,~Mwest,~Mnorth,~Meast|md|2SAHA852DKQ985CJ82,SKJ83HDAJ7432CT93,ST75HQT764D6CQ654,SQ9642HKJ93DTCAK7|sv|e|rh||ah|Board%2016|mb|P|mb|P|mb|1S|an|Major%20suit%20opening%20--%205+%20!S;%2011-21%20HCP;%2012-22%20total%20points|mb|D|an|Takeout%20double%20--%203-5%20!C;%203-5%20!D;%203-4%20!H;%202-%20!S;%2012+%20total%20points|mb|4S|an|4+%20!S;%2011-%20HCP;%208-12%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|P|mb|P|pc|DK|pc|DA|pc|D6|pc|DT|pc|CT|pc|C6|pc|CA|pc|C2|pc|H9|pc|H2|pc|S3|pc|H4|pc|D4|pc|C4|pc|S4|pc|D5|pc|CK|pc|C8|pc|C9|pc|C5|pc|H3|pc|H5|pc|S8|pc|H7|pc|D7|pc|S7|pc|S9|pc|D8|pc|HJ|pc|H8|pc|SJ|pc|HQ|pc|D3|pc|S5|pc|S6|pc|D9|pc|HK|pc|HA|pc|SK|pc|HT|pc|C3|pc|CQ|pc|C7|pc|CJ|pc|H6|pc|S2|pc|SA|pc|DJ|pc|DQ|pc|D2|pc|ST|pc|SQ|]399|300[/hv] I did not lead ♠A, so the bot grabbed 11 tricks, and I hoped the 1 Imp wasn't decisive But I lost the match by one, because my opponent did bid 5♦ and was allowed to play there [hv=url=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&lin=pn%7CHuman%2CRobot%2CRobot%2CRobot%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C2SAHA852DKQ985CJ82%2CSKJ83HDAJ7432CT93%2CST75HQT764D6CQ654%2CSQ9642HKJ93DTCAK7%7Csv%7CE%7Cah%7CBoard%2016%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7CMajor%20suit%20opening%20--%205%2B%20%21S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CD%7Can%7CTakeout%20double%20--%203-5%20%21C%3B%203-5%20%21D%3B%203-4%20%21H%3B%202-%20%21S%3B%2012%2B%20total%20points%7Cmb%7C4S%7Can%7C4%2B%20%21S%3B%2011-%20HCP%3B%208-12%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C5D%7Can%7C6%2B%20%21D%3B%2019-22%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CD9%7C]399|300[/hv] 6 down, but still winning 8 Imp and the match. It would be nice if someone learned GIB about penalty doubles
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4- is 4 or less 4+ is 4 or more
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[hv=url=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&lin=pn%7CHuman%2CRobot%2CRobot%2CRobot%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C1SAK975H95DA2CAJ95%2CSJT86HAJ76DQJT6C4%2CSHQ842D7543CQT862%2CSQ432HKT3DK98CK73%7Csv%7CB%7Cah%7CBoard%207%7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7CMajor%20suit%20opening%20--%205%2B%20%21S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C1N%7Can%7CBalancing%20notrump%20--%2011-15%20HCP%7Cmb%7C2C%7Can%7C4%2B%20%21C%3B%205%2B%20%21S%3B%2021-%20HCP%3B%2015-22%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C2H%7Can%7C4-%20%21C%3B%204%2B%20%21H%3B%202-%20%21S%3B%205-%20HCP%3B%205%2B%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cmc%7C6%7C]399|300[/hv] Bidding a 4-card ♥-suit with 5-card ♣, and the explanation should probably be less than 4♣, and not 4-♣ I have noticed that after passing an opening bid the bot tends to make stupid bids with max ie. 4-5 HCP
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It will, I have seen that many times
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[hv=url=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&lin=pn%7Cthorvald%2CRobot%2CRobot%2CRobot%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C4SK7HAQJ85DAQ7642C%2CSJT84HK4DKT85CQ86%2CSQ532H632DJ9C9732%2CSA96HT97D3CAKJT54%7Csv%7CB%7Cah%7CBoard%2010%7Cmb%7C1C%7Can%7CMinor%20suit%20opening%20--%203%2B%20%21C%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points%7Cmb%7C1D%7Can%7COne-level%20overcall%20--%205%2B%20%21D%3B%208-17%20HCP%3B%209-19%20total%20points%7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7CFree%20bid%20--%204%2B%20%21S%3B%206%2B%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C2C%7Can%7COpener%20rebids%20his%20C%20--%203-%20%21S%3B%2011-15%20HCP%3B%20twice%20rebiddable%20%21C%3B%2012-16%20total%20points%7Cmb%7C2H%7Can%7C5%2B%20%21D%3B%204%2B%20%21H%3B%2017-%20HCP%3B%2012-19%20total%20points%7Cmb%7C3C%7Can%7C2%2B%20%21C%3B%204%2B%20%21S%3B%209-12%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C3H%7Can%7C5%2B%20%21D%3B%206%2B%20%21H%3B%2017-%20HCP%3B%2015-19%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cmc%7C9%7C]399|300[/hv] Now knowing that the bot isn't that good at Michaels I decide just to bid 1♦, and on the next round 2♥, what surprised me was that 3♥, now suddenly was a 6-card suit, and no longer with longer ♦s
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Yet another - Why move from a known fit?
thorvald replied to thorvald's topic in GIB Robot Discussion
It also had 4♥, so good it did not bid 4♥, as it will be down 2 and 2♠ was only down 1 :-) -
[hv=url=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=st||pn|Thorvald,~~v3fakebot,~~v3fakebot,~~v3fakebot|md|2SAQJ53HA932DA6C62,SK972HKT4DT32CJT4,ST6H8765DJ94CKQ87,S84HQJDKQ875CA953|sv|b|rh||ah|Board%204|mb|P|mb|P|mb|1D|an|Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203+%20!D;%2011-21%20HCP;%2012-22%20total%20points|mb|1S|an|One-level%20overcall%20--%205+%20!S;%208-17%20HCP;%209-19%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|P|mb|2C|an|4+%20!C;%205+%20!D;%2011+%20HCP;%2012-17%20total%20points|mb|2H|an|4+%20!H;%205+%20!S;%2017-%20HCP;%2012-19%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|2S|an|10-%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|P|mb|P|pc|D2|pc|D9|pc|DQ|pc|DA|pc|C2|pc|C4|pc|CQ|pc|CA|pc|HQ|pc|H2|pc|H4|pc|H5|pc|HJ|pc|HA|pc|HK|pc|H6|pc|C6|pc|CJ|pc|CK|pc|C3|pc|ST|pc|S4|pc|S3|pc|SK|pc|CT|pc|C7|pc|C5|pc|S5|pc|H9|pc|HT|pc|H7|pc|S8|pc|C9|pc|SJ|pc|D3|pc|C8|pc|SA|pc|S2|pc|S6|pc|D8|pc|SQ|pc|S9|pc|H8|pc|D5|pc|H3|pc|S7|pc|D4|pc|D7|pc|DT|pc|DJ|pc|DK|pc|D6|]399|300[/hv]
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[hv=pc=n&s=sak8732hak2dt83c7&d=n&v=b&b=13&a=pp1sp1nd2sdp3cp3d3hp?]133|200[/hv] I Opened 1♠ in third hand and after the T/O double (Showing 4+♥, 3+♣, 3+♦ and 11 HCP) of 1N I bid 2♠. Now West Doubled showing biddable ♠ and at most 3♥ and 10 HCP - seems to be a penalty double East jumped to ♣ showing 4+♦, 4+♥ and biddable ♣ I had to pass West bid 3♦, and now North found the time right to bid 3♥ showing 2♠, 10-11 HCP and forcing to 3N I was out of options 3N would show extra 3♠, when West had doubled me in 2♠ also looked bad Could North have 4♥? What should i do?
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[hv=url=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&lin=pn%7Cthorvald%2CRobot%2CRobot%2CRobot%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C3SA5HAK4DT762CAQ84%2CSKJ763HT952DJ83CK%2CSQT8HJ876DKQCJ752%2CS942HQ3DA954CT963%7Csv%7CN%7Cah%7CBoard%205%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C1N%7Can%7Cnotrump%20opener.%20Could%20have%205M.%20--%202-5%20%21C%3B%202-5%20%21D%3B%202-5%20%21H%3B%202-5%20%21S%3B%2015-17%20HCP%3B%2018-%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C2C%7Can%7CStayman%20--%2011-%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C2D%7Can%7CNo%20major%20suits%20--%202-5%20%21C%3B%202-5%20%21D%3B%202-3%20%21H%3B%202-3%20%21S%3B%2015-17%20HCP%3B%2018-%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C2N%7Can%7CInvite%20to%203NT%2C%20may%20not%20have%204-card%20major%20--%204-%20%21H%3B%204-%20%21S%3B%209%20HCP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C3N%7Can%7C2-5%20%21C%3B%202-5%20%21D%3B%202-3%20%21H%3B%202-3%20%21S%3B%2015-17%20HCP%3B%2018-%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CDT%7C]399|300[/hv] For once GIB lead from the strongest suit, and I played the Ten and played a ♣ to Ten (!), Queen and King. Now GIB switched to ♦, where I would have been down on a ♠-continuation (Shows how important signaling is), and East went back to ♠ Now I know GIB will play highest affordable card but is the ♣T from T963? I doubted and played ♣A. I gave up, not seeing the winning line (West is squeezed in 3 suits if I just continue ♣)
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[hv=pc=n&n=sjt8642ha7dq3cq97&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=1d1h1s2cpp?]133|200[/hv] Here I think most players will bid 2♠ (Even when playing with support doubles) but GIB is silent What is interesting is if south bid 2♦, showing longer ♦s but not extra points [hv=pc=n&n=sjt8642ha7dq3cq97&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=1d1h1s2c2dp?]133|200[/hv] Now GIB bid 2♠. With Qx in ♦ pass seems more right
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Yes, it would have bid 3N
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[hv=pc=n&s=skhaqt97da975ckj6&d=e&v=e&b=6&a=p1h1sp1n2d3cpp?]133|200[/hv] This seemed like a misfit hand, and North would probably have 5♠, and EW is vulnerable. Now double is defined as Takeout double, 5-♣,5-♠, 19 total points. I decided to double just to see what would happen, but the continuation was a surprise [hv=url=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=st||pn|Thorvald,~Mwest,~Mnorth,~Meast|md|4SKHAQT97DA975CKJ6,SAQ986HKDK84CQ742,SJT5432H5D32CT983,S7HJ86432DQJT6CA5|sv|e|rh||ah|Board%206|mb|P|mb|1H|an|Major%20suit%20opening%20--%205+%20!H;%2011-21%20HCP;%2012-22%20total%20points|mb|1S|an|One-level%20overcall%20--%205+%20!S;%208-17%20HCP;%209-19%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|1N|an|2-%20!S;%209-11%20HCP;%2012-%20total%20points|mb|2D|an|4+%20!D;%205+%20!H;%2015-19%20total%20points|mb|3C|an|4+%20!C;%205+%20!S;%2017-%20HCP;%2014-19%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|P|mb|D|an|Takeout%20double%20--%205-%20!C;%204+%20!D;%205+%20!H;%205-%20!S;%2019%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|4C|an|4+%20!C;%205-%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|4H|an|5-%20!C;%204+%20!D;%205-%20!S;%2019+%20HCP;%20twice%20rebiddable%20!H;%2019-%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|P|mb|P|pc|HK|pc|H5|pc|H6|pc|HA|pc|SK|pc|SA|pc|S2|pc|S7|pc|C2|pc|C8|pc|CA|pc|C6|pc|DQ|pc|D5|pc|D4|pc|D2|pc|DJ|pc|DA|pc|D8|pc|D3|pc|D9|pc|DK|pc|S3|pc|D6|pc|CQ|pc|C3|pc|C5|pc|CK|pc|HQ|pc|S9|pc|S4|pc|H8|pc|CJ|pc|C7|pc|C9|pc|H2|pc|H4|pc|H7|pc|S8|pc|CT|pc|HT|pc|S6|pc|S5|pc|HJ|pc|DT|pc|D7|pc|C4|pc|ST|pc|H3|pc|H9|pc|SQ|pc|SJ|]399|300[/hv] Perhaps I should have passed 4♣, but considering how many times the bot leaves my T/D in, this was a surprise that it found a bid here. Now the board was from the Daylong weekend event, so the board was played many times Here the player managed to play against 2♣X - Notice the bot did not remove the T/O-double [hv=url=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&lin=pn%7CSouth%2CRobot%2CRobot%2CRobot%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C4SKHAQT97DA975CKJ6%2CSAQ986HKDK84CQ742%2CSJT5432H5D32CT983%2CS7HJ86432DQJT6CA5%7Csv%7CE%7Cah%7CBoard%206%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C1H%7Can%7CMajor%20suit%20opening%20--%205%2B%20%21H%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points%7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7COne-level%20overcall%20--%205%2B%20%21S%3B%208-17%20HCP%3B%209-19%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C1N%7Can%7C2-%20%21S%3B%209-11%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C2C%7Can%7C4%2B%20%21C%3B%205%2B%20%21S%3B%2017-%20HCP%3B%2011-19%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CD%7Can%7C5-%20%21C%3B%204%2B%20%21D%3B%205%2B%20%21H%3B%205-%20%21S%3B%2016-20%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CSQ%7C]399|300[/hv] But really a hand with many different results as the player in South had some decisions to make Traveller
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Looking at this hand [hv=url=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=st||pn|Thorvald,~Mwest,~Mnorth,~Meast|md|1SAQ74HAJ54D52CJT9,SKT952H632DAKTC82,SJ8HQT9DQ87CK6543,S63HK87DJ9643CAQ7|sv|b|rh||ah|Board%207|mb|1C|an|Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203+%20!C;%2011-21%20HCP;%2012-22%20total%20points|mb|1S|an|One-level%20overcall%20--%205+%20!S;%208-17%20HCP;%209-19%20total%20points|mb|3C|an|Preemptive%20raise%20--%205+%20!C;%204-9%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|P|mb|P|pc|DK|pc|D7|pc|D3|pc|D2|pc|DA|pc|D8|pc|D9|pc|D5|pc|H6|pc|HT|pc|H7|pc|HJ|pc|CJ|pc|C2|pc|C3|pc|CQ|pc|S6|pc|SA|pc|S2|pc|S8|pc|C9|pc|C8|pc|C4|pc|C7|pc|CT|pc|S5|pc|C5|pc|CA|pc|D6|pc|S4|pc|DT|pc|DQ|pc|CK|pc|H8|pc|S7|pc|H3|pc|HQ|pc|HK|pc|HA|pc|H2|pc|H4|pc|S9|pc|H9|pc|S3|pc|C6|pc|DJ|pc|H5|pc|ST|pc|SJ|pc|D4|pc|SQ|pc|SK|]399|300[/hv] it seems that with 5♣ and 4-9 points it bids 3♣, so perhaps 3♣ in the first example is not just showing 5♣, but also 10 HCP :-)
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Tired of going down I decided just to make an invite on this board [hv=url=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=st||pn|Thorvald,~Mwest,~Mnorth,~Meast|md|2SAT2HA74DAK4CQJ65,SK54HKQ953DJT98C8,SQ9HJT6D532CAK743,SJ8763H82DQ76CT92|sv|o|rh||ah|Board%208|mb|P|mb|P|mb|P|mb|1C|an|Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203+%20!C;%2011-21%20HCP;%2012-22%20total%20points|mb|1H|an|One-level%20overcall%20--%205+%20!H;%208-11%20HCP;%209-12%20total%20points|mb|2C|an|4+%20!C;%206-10%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|2N|an|Invitational%20to%203NT%20game%20--%203+%20!C;%2018-20%20HCP;%2022-%20total%20points;%20likely%20stop%20in%20!H|mb|P|mb|3C|an|5+%20!C;%206-10%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|P|mb|P|pc|HK|pc|H6|pc|H8|pc|HA|pc|CQ|pc|C8|pc|C3|pc|C2|pc|C5|pc|H5|pc|CA|pc|CT|pc|C4|pc|C9|pc|CJ|pc|S4|pc|H4|pc|HQ|pc|HT|pc|H2|pc|DJ|pc|D5|pc|D6|pc|DA|pc|S2|pc|SK|pc|S9|pc|S3|pc|D8|pc|D2|pc|DQ|pc|DK|pc|H7|pc|H3|pc|HJ|pc|S7|pc|CK|pc|S8|pc|C6|pc|S5|pc|C7|pc|D7|pc|D4|pc|H9|pc|SQ|pc|S6|pc|SA|pc|DT|pc|ST|pc|D9|pc|D3|pc|SJ|]399|300[/hv] And it was a big surprise that the bot with a maximum (in fact I think the hand is to good for 2♣) did not accept the invite. I assume there is a rule telling it to bid 3♣ with 5♣, that overrules everything else
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Could this plan be right? [hv=url=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&lin=pn%7CThorvald%2CRobot%2CRobot%2CRobot%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C3ST32H4DAKJCAQJT86%2CSQJ7HA32DQT97CK54%2CS654HKT976D5C9732%2CSAK98HQJ85D86432C%7Csv%7CB%7Cah%7CBoard%2013%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C1C%7Can%7CMinor%20suit%20opening%20--%203%2B%20%21C%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CD%7Can%7C3%2B%20%21D%3B%203%2B%20%21H%3B%203%2B%20%21S%3B%209-11%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points%7Cmb%7C2C%7Can%7C6%2B%20%21C%3B%2014-16%20HCP%7Cmb%7C2N%7Can%7CTwo%20NT%20to%20double%20--%202-5%20%21C%3B%202-5%20%21D%3B%202-4%20%21H%3B%202-4%20%21S%3B%2012-13%20HCP%3B%20stop%20in%20%21C%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH7%7C]399|300[/hv] At trick 4 the bot finessed in ♠ - assuming ♣6-4 it is with odds, and the bot might have seen it could cause problem with 4 times ♠. Now to kill the extra entry North could have played the Ten if it was there, so interesting if the best plan (needing an entry) would be to play Q followed by small, then the ten would be wrong if partner had Jx
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I was using the bidding area on BBO to test it, and the description said 2+♠
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It would be nice if we could see who we are playing against, just like in real bridge, but I haven't found a way to check if I am playing against normal or advanced bots Testing on the 2012-version GIB simulates and bid 3N (Explaining That bid shows: 3+ D; 5- H; 5- S; 11-18 HCP; 12-22 total points; partial stop in C; partial stop in H; partial stop in S) But looking at the explanation of 4♦ it more looks like a rule has been executed, as the explanation is not the same as for the opening
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Double is defined as 2+♠, so presumably a penalty double
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I think 6♦ is a much better bid, I wonder If I would pass that, The board is not visible as my opponent hasn't played it, but I think my hand was [hv=pc=n&s=s2hakq9875dajcaq2]133|100[/hv] I might have made an error in the simulation, as the bot also bids 6♦ (by far) now I was wondering if it was better to bid 4♥, than 3♥ showing longer ♥, but now West will not bid 3♠, and the bot will still jump to 6♦ I think learning to subtract points when void in partners suit is important
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I agree, the bots are much more consistent - they will continue to make the same error over and over again :-) No seriously, consistency in the bidding is worth a lot, and I often play 8-board matches, where the bot is doing very well (and I am making the errors)
