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My compliments Gerben! Yesterday I noticed you really did your outmost to explain the features of Burrati/Lanzarotti to the audience.

Neapolitan Club acc. to Edgar Kaplan 'The complete italian system of winning bridge', page 72. The forcing bid is 3 ♣ over which opener completes the picture and responder places the contract. Tend to avoid 2NT for diamonds as an NT-contract will play from wrong side. 3♣ opening is something in between standard preempt and the above description, something like Precision 3♣(Belladonna/Garozzo). ------------------------------- For those interested: Namyats is a part of Precision/SUPERprecision(Belladonna/Garozzo), Viking Precision, Icelandic Precision, Power Precision(Sontag/Weichsel), Cohen/Berkowitz, Roman Club and Arno Club. Namyats is NOT a part of Blue Club, Orange Club, Meckwell Club or Hamway Club.

Thank you both - I will look Kantar up - I think I have his books. The only option I was able to find was Byzantine Blackwood and it might very well be correct as that convention should have responses similar to RKCB. This convention is used in 3 cases in Icelandic Precision - a rather complicated symmetric relay system. I have stated the sequences below: 1NT-2♥=#Trans->♠ *5+♠ *5+-4+,minors *4♠+5♥ 1NT-2♥-2NT=MAXIMUM,S:4cd,better♦ 3♣=To play 3♦ 3♦=GF,Both minors,H:Single/void 3♥=Re-transfer -> ♠ 3♠=Single/void 3NT=*2-2-4-5 *2-2-5-4 4♣=*2-1-5-5 *1-2-5-5 4♦=*1-1-5-6 *1-2-6-5 4♥=Void,Slam? 4♠=Void,Slam? 4NT=6 aces Blackwood 5♣=Signoff 5♦=Signoff -------------------- 1NT-2♥-3♣=MAXIMUM,S:4cd,better ♣ Pass=Signoff 3♦=GF,Both minors,♥:Single/void 3♥=Re-transfer -> ♠ 3♠=Single/void 3NT=*2-2-4-5 *2-2-5-4 4♣=*2-1-5-5 *1-2-5-5 4♦=*1-1-5-6 *1-2-6-5 4♥=Void,Slam? 4♠=Void,Slam? 4NT=6 aces Blackwood 5♣=Signoff 5♦=Signoff ------------------- 1NT-2♥-2♠-2NT=Minor,2-suiter 3♣=Best minor 3♦=Best minor 3♣♦-3♥=Single/void 3♣♦-3♠=Single/void 3♣♦-3NT=*2-2-4-5 *2-2-5-4 3♣♦-4♣=*2-1-5-5 *1-2-5-5 3♣♦-4♦=*1-1-5-6 *1-2-6-5 3♣♦-4♥=Void,Slam? 3♣♦-4♠=Void,Slam? 3♣♦-4NT=6 aces Blackwood 3♣♦-5♣=Signoff 3♣♦-5♦=Signoff

I need the definition of convention '6 aces Blackwood'. Could it be 'Byzantine Blackwood'? Anybody who will be able to help?

My compliments for what has been achieved until now. I also appreciate to see an open mind to suggestions for improvements. Events from Poland has a remarkably higher quality than events from elsewhere. The polish commentators has a personal knowledge and relationship to the actors. Meaning they know the systems, personal habits and general interpretations based on local conventions. Something similar I noticed as Jan Jansma was on in recent event from The Hague. I understand quite well it can be very difficult to have the right persons available for such. In modern bridge the features of competition and defense are those which are on pressure. Therefore a good knowledge is needed to provide substantial information. This is important to all systems but of crucial importance when strong systems are on. I have noticed Roland is trying to read several of the systems which are on agenda from convention cards. He therefore knows exactly how timeconsuming and how difficult it is to figure out a system with notes. Well informed guides are urgent needed to help the audience. It is very difficult to comment on strong systems like Meckwell, Hamway, Auken/von Arnim, Lanzarotti/Burrati, Blakset/Bruun, Bertheau/Nystrøm, Aa/Grotheim, Sontag/Weichsel etc. without special knowledge. I have noticed some of the commentators are more vital when such are on than others, fx. Mike Hargreaves, Chris Compton, Larry Cohen, David Burn are some I remember right now. The poles fulfills normally all my requirements.

I happened to read this thread here and I like to encourage more persons suffering from rude behavior to report. I normally report 2-3 persons for table jumping each day and thats only the clear cases. I have the impression from the messages I receive from BBO that I maybe is too eager. I read that as most people dont report but simply accept the rude behavior as something we have to live with even it looks as an increasing problem. It is a clear problem that rude behavior is processed by the software(sucked into tourney) and that people cannot trust to be on the good side of decent behavior using normal features. To me the solutions to solve the problems looks fairly simple.

Lately I have noticed some of the YELLOW have used the broadcast feature for advertising of tourney sign-up. I have disabled lobby chat but the broadcast feature is overruling that - and generally good so. I think the feature has never been intended to be used in that way. Instead I have now silenced those YELLOW persons - but I don't think it is right of me to block any of the YELLOW. They ought to have free access to all members to be able to do their job.

Anybody able to help with information about Black Club and Orange Club, both systems of Dallas Aces. I have this information: ♣ ORANGE CLUB ♣ Strong club system used by James Jacoby and Bobby Wolff in the 1970, 1971 and 1972 World Championships, and subsequently by Wolff with Bob Hamman. The 1♣ opening promises 17 or more points; responses show controls. Other opening bids are limited and natural according to the canape' principle. A 1NT opening shows a balanced hand with 13-15 points with a 4- or 5-card clubs suit or 16-17 with any balanced distribution. Other features include BLUE Team 2♦, Flannery 2♥, weak 2-bid in spades only; singleton- and void showing reaises by a passed hand. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The context is this: http://groups.msn.com/bridgeFILES/dallas.msnw All substantial information will be much welcomed. Claus

Yes Ben other systems also uses 12-14 NT. Super Lambda, Suspensor, Kaplan-Sheinwold. You may expect this to be asked for in Beginners/Intermediate. - I dont do so - I assume standard classic.

The point in 4 card majors like ACOL is you will hold: 2♠2♥3♦6♣ 2♠3♥3♦5♣ 3♠2♥3♦5♣ 2♠3♥4♦4♣ 3♠2♥4♦4♣ 3♠3♥3♦4♣ 3♠3♥4♦3♣ and a few more without 4 card major. If you have a 4 card major you open 1♥ or 1♠. So failing to do so in ACOL - you will normally have NO 4 card major. Therefore Stayman is of no really importance in ACOL. Of course you may have a 4 card major - but then your general strength will be 12HcP. Attractive???

Ben I dont understand what you are talking about. I assume ACOL standard, 4 card majors. Else a posting in beginner/intermediate section is just rubbish. In ACOL your 4 card major openings tends to be strong therefore you assume 1NT containing no 4 card majors unless absolute minimum. You will here with 2 balanced hands expect to find such by opps. This means either a 2-suited overcall or maybe a DBL for general unspecified values. A DBL for 1-suiter you simply pass - they have to handle themselves as they cannot find fit. Talking about KS: - 2♣ is Stayman standard - 2♦ getting out of the frying pan - paving the way for opps.' overcall - 2♥♠ - signoff Your expectations for the distribution in 1NT KS versus ACOL are completely different.

No you don't do such Luke. Your partners RDBL informing you of max. 4 card clubs - else he will take out in clubs himself over a DBL opening 6322 or 5332. Your partners SOS is a call for you for a sacrifice in 4-3 fit in majors. As this post is in beginners/intermediate - we are talking about standard ACOL. If the posting has been in other sections we might have been talking about other systems - club systems or Kaplan/Sheinwold. In KS you immediately bid 2♥. This is not a swingboard worth sleeepless nights. It is about 50-90-100-110 either way. Nothing else.

It is standard to pass. Half of the field will pass out the hand completely - so not much to loose here and there it doesn't matter much what you do unless you encourage partner wrongly. - You pass. If opps. overcall your problems are over. - You pass. If opps. DBL - you await whether partner choose a RDBL(SOS) - then you take out in hearts. - You pass. If this is the end - 1-2 down - no problem. ----------------------- How to handle such is the same whether 12-14 or 15-17. If you play stronger NT fx. 17-20 you will have Gladiator conv. for your disposal to handle this kind of situations.

If you are right about 16 times or 2 hours Jack my blame of Jahol was not right. It would be interesting to know how it really works.

Bocchi/Duboin I just checked as I wondered. Acc. to their cc 2♦ open is defined: Multi weak 2 in ♥ or ♠ or balanced 20-22. The continuations you will find in note 22. http://free.hostdepartment.com/c/csdenmark...cchi-duboin.pdf http://free.hostdepartment.com/c/csdenmark...duboinnotes.pdf

Really sure the idea of a corps of substitutters is so bad? Assigned not for one single tourney but for all. Sound good and I think it will be worth giving deeper thoughts. Sure such a task will not be for beginners. As you mention basic skills for several systems will be needed. I think a topic to deal with in your TD-Forum.

Flame the market for bridge software will be shrinking. ADSL connections undermine the value of off-line products. Bridge is a very small niche. It is a specilised niche where there still are needs but for those kind of needs no obvious market. I think of specialized systems, interference handling and especially defense. The basic for software development is C++ and database products like DB2. If you are an experienced programmer - then why asking here? If you are not an experienced programmer - you will need 2-5 years to adopt those kind of basic skills.

I have no idea Jack - but I think it is of very much importance. I wonder why all the people here are so keen discussing an obvious bid instead of concentrating on what is of importance. I think it is of importance to know how many times a deal is loaded. I have noticed when I play a new deal - it is played by 10 other tables within an hour. I think it is right to have a right to discuss interesting hands hands here but I also think it is right to wait until we are sure/near sure that all who will be playing the hand has completed.

I think it is quite OK to put such hands up after a week or so. I read your post as it was yesterday - and then it is not correct. I dont know how many times a deal is made - I know on ZONE each deal come up 24 times.

Thank you Jahol - now I think we know how to handle the day this hand soon will be dealt to us. - Maybe we spare time not playing the hand as we now know as well distribution and actions.

Thank you very much Ron - exactly the information I needed.

I am trying to translate Suspensor. Here I use Longin Bartnik's web-sites. Unfortunately some of the links looks strange/dead/restricted. I would like to have a reference to the polish 5-4-3-1 convention right - if posssible. Anybody who will be able to help with the interpretation. Here it is not about translation but I need a general interpretation or maybe just the principles. A WEB-site link will be just wonderful.

In general I agree with your comments Helene. To be clear about the meaning I think is important. I dont like the polish systems - each call have too many meanings. In some special cases it is also so for the italian diamond systems but more limited. Precision is not infected with those kind of problems. Until tysen revealed something about the system I was unable to extract the meaning of the creation. I put it up here hoping somebody knows the system, the approach behind and maybe some other systems similar. I also uploaded because it is the first russian I have seen. Even the 52 cards are the same all over the world - it has something to be informed a bit of ideas from other parts of the globe. Anyhow I will ask Vitold to send me more info.

Ever heard of this russian system I have received an overview of today? V. Brushtunov Bidding System "Three-times-three" A most of used natural and semi-natural systems have almost the same Class of Difficult Deals (CDD) – that means deals, when inside the system one can hardly declare optimal contract. Increasing players’ level provided that leading pairs use almost full possibilities of natural systems and that’s why struggle in sport bridge between such pairs consists on card-play. At 60-ties years of previous century Polish theoretic Lukash Slawinsky concluded that for fighting against leading pairs weaker pair should use system with CDD that does not has common regions with CDD of natural systems. This conclusion provided him to invention of group of systems with strong pass and weak opening bids (HUM-Systems in modern terminology). Weak opening bids should either transfer to partner not only specific information about strength and distribution but also carry at preemptive function m ore frequently than natural systems. And then it became clear that all HUM-S’s have rather low average level of opening bid: between 1Club and 1Diamond. So the aim of throwing opponents to intervention these systems did not manage. Moreover, “strong pass” itself Became the weakest part of these systems because even not too high opponent’s preemptive bid after such a pass destroyed constructive bidding of the system. At the middle of 70-ties bridge-players from Kharkov (Ukraine)Vladimir Korop and his son Alexey Korop formulated ideology and spectrum of opening bids of absolutely unusual, extremely aggressive and destructive system, called “3x3”. This system even nowadays is still maximal destructive and have average level of opening bids between 1Spades and 1NT because opening calls from Pass till 2Hearts have in practice almost the same probability. 1. Spectrum of opening calls 1.1. Suits openings System “3x3” has following so-called “suit openings” at 1-st and 2-nd levels: At the 1-st level: at the 2-nd level: Pass 1 NT 1 Club 2 Clubs 1 Diamond 2 Diamonds 1 Heart 2 Hearts Every suit-opening call is made with one from three zone of strength: at the 1-st level: 0-2 or 7-9 or 16-18, at the 2-nd level: 3-5 or 10-12 or 18-20. Moreover, every suit-opening-call describes one from three types of distribution: - 4-3-3-3, 4-cards suit is bid natural (Pass and 1 NT – for 4 cards in Spade); - at most one short (two or less cards in it) and at least three cards in all other suits – the short suit is shown via texas; - at least two short suits (at most two cards in them) – main suit of the hand is shown via texas. So: every suit opening call has 9 meanings – three types of distribution and three zones of strength. That’s why it was named “3x3”. Notes: a priory probabilities of these calls are: - texas in short suit – about 0.6, - middle zone of strength – about 0.75. And these probabilities should be informed to opponents in advance 1.2. Other opening bids 1 Spade – two zones of strength (5-7 or 13-15), any distribution; 2 Spades - 21 and more, suit distribution or 23 and more, NT distribution (in practice – forcing game); 2 NT - 21-22, regular distribution; 3 Clubs and higher – classical bids.

I have no idea whether those modifications Glenn has made are good or not. I dont care about such - only to get it right. The changes are: 1♣ - 1♥ - 1♠ - 1NT= Relay Via this you show a spade suit: 1♣ -1♥ - 1NT 1♣ - 2♠ = 12+ relay,1444,4441,Black singleton 1♣ - 2NT = 12+ relay,4144,4414,Red singleton Rather complicated structure the guys have created - but successfull they are!