With this hand I transfer and then : 2NT 3♦ 3♥ : No ♥ fit, no 5 spades 3♠ : 5♠ no ♥ fit 3NT : ♥ fit, ♠ control 4♣ :♥ fit, ♣ control 4♦ : ♥ fit, ♦ control 4♥ : Great fit, all controls If I have 5♠ then : 2NT 3♥ 3♠ : No ♠ fit, no 5 hearts 3[NT] : 5♥ no ♠ fit 4♣ :♠ fit, ♣ control 4♦ : ♠ fit, ♦ control 4♥ : ♠ fit, ♥ control 4♠ : Great fit, all controls This simple and effective. Alain