MinorKid

x -> rebid a new suit shows the hand quite simular to a strong one suiter. But if i am south i'd not think north's so extreme.

Specific Aces will solve north's problem. However methods in doing that may take it too high.

Just 2♦ at least it won't cause disaster

4NT may take too high... So i agreed 4♦. But 2♦ IMO is better.

4♦ is completely ok. It is unlucky that the club "fits". But i will surely bid 2♦

Well i am going nut.... and go 4NT after 3/4♣ after 2♠.

To splinter here is misleading IMO. (Especially when p have something in it!) We will avoid splinter with an honor as much as possible. To reverse with ♦QTx is not my taste neither, when p happens to hold ♦xxxx... Looks like 4♥ is good enough. <_< EDIT: 4NT is wrong here. It is just a gamble. After all only A's and K's are concerned!

Haha, or stop playing with pickup experts. [hv=d=n&v=n&n=sq9852hk8dktckj64&s=sakj64hjda975cqt9]133|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv] West North East South - 1♠ Pass 4♥ Pass Pass Pass Interesting hand to play and only down 4 <_< Dose he/she need to preempt when one side have the strengh and ... perhaps both majors?

If opponent overcall which makes this impossible, let them off.

xxx x AKQJxx AQx "Bid ♦ 3 times." xxx xx AKQJx AKQ Rebid ♦ ... hope for the best EDITED: xx x AJTxxxx AQx Rebid ♦ ... see if partner raise If i dont "raise", "splinter", "fit jump" or give any support showing bid, partner should immediate know we have a misfit in that suit. Afterall "support with support" is in first priority for contested auctions. Perhaps one is right to not to play fit jump here, i had opened 1♦. But there's no reason that you cannot hold 1-4-4-4 without any ♦ honors.

OK now i tell all of you the result. [hv=d=s&v=e&n=sakhk6542dk96c854&w=s96532hj93dj8cj63&e=sqjt874hqd52ckq97&s=shat87daqt743cat2]399|300|Scoring: IMP N/S trick expectation C 9 D 13 H 12 S 6 N 11~12[/hv] First of all if you splinter you will mostly go to 6♥ and make it. If you use the "honor fitting" cue bid i introduced after splinter you may also make 7♦ if you hold your captaincity. Secondly, i had a firm agreement with my partner that a jump to a suit after an overcall is a fit jump and should tell more information than heart support (i.e. diamonds are important too.) all in one bid. It works too! Finally the 7NT guys makes when west discarded a heart after 6 rounds of ♦ and 2 rounds of ♠.

Over 3♠, any side suit bid is a cuebid, showing A, K, singleton or void in the suit. However, it is a very good idea not to cuebid with shortness in partner's suit, only with A or K. So your partner is right. In other words, just because you found one fit (hearts) does not mean you can't find another fit (in diamonds) later. However, again I think it is very unlikely that you will need to play this hand in diamonds. Perhaps a direct 4♦ shows more than ♦Kxx while 4♦ via 3NT can be somthing like ♦K or ♦Kx. :rolleyes: For a suit that had not been bid it has to be at least five card suit with honors that needs a fit. Just like those required for a fit jump. i.e. like KJxxx AQxxx AKxxx...

I bid 2♠ too.

So ... after splinter how do you go to 7♦ if you want to? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I emailed my partner today about that. He said if he bid a direct 4♦ that is a honor (fitting) bid for slam. (Did you heard of that convension?) His reason is that we would never play 3NT after a splinter so we would use 3NT bid as a control cue bid request, while a immediate "cue-bid" shows honors in the suit.

thx

Double then rebid 3♦ Another beautiful description of your hand i think.

So far very most of us bid 3♠ (and that is my software's answer) [hv=d=s&v=e&n=sakhk6542dk96c854&s=shat87daqt743cat2]133|200|Scoring: IMP The bidding is simply 1♦ {-} 1♥ {1♠} 3♠ {Dbl} 5N {-} 6♥ {-} - {-} Edited on 18 MAR[/hv] Here's what had happened in my table me 1♦ {-} 1♥ {1♠} 3♦ {3♠} 4♦ {-} 4♥ {-} 4♠ {-} 4NT {-} 5♥! {-} ♠A + ♦K 5NT {-} 6NT {-} 2 outside Kings 7♦ {-} - {-} Note that my 3♦ did not deny any ♥ but show ♥ support of some sort and it garantees some honors in bidded suit. and it is the "4NT" table 1♦ {-} 1♥ {1♠} 4NT!! {-} 5♦ {-} Simple Blackwood 5NT!! {-} 6NT {-} 7NT!! {-} - {Dbl}!! - {-} - Please don't laugh at the hand or my biddings... ;)

I guess a 4D still has the same meaning, even after the 3S call. With no intervention - 4D would show a 6 carder and the heart fit, but one usually requires a better suit, AKQxxx. That is the classical meaning, but there is a approach, which reserves the 4D bid for 5422 hands, the reason being, that with a 6 card suit and 4 card support, you have a splinter. The splinter basically gurantees 5diamonds, ... you could be 4441, but that is the only sensible distribution, and since you make a slam move, the diamond suit wont be rubbish, so the splinter is a fit jump, sort of. With kind regards Marlowe If i hold a solid suit i will elect to "bid ♦ 3 times."

I am just curious. If you splinter would partner bid ♦ with ♦ Kxx ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When I come to auctions that splinter the opponent's suits there's oftenly a group of tables bid something like a fit jump. i.e. jump to a suit immediate the overcall , showing a >5 card bidded suit with at least 2 honors. I throught "splinter" and "fit jumps" are a pair! But here i met all fans of "Splinter"

In this board i did not care about partner's shape. So i bid 4NT... The result... tell you later Forgive me... i met a 13 year old novice there i am 14

What if partner actually holds ♦Kxx ♥Kxxx(x) ?

The diamond suit is not strong enough for a 4♦ bid showing a strong hand with 4-6 in the reds. This typically shows a SOLID diamond suit with good 4 card heart support. A 3♦ bid would show a good hand with long diamonds, but it would deny holding 4 card heart support. The 4 card heart support is the most important single characteristic of this hand, and one should not ignore it. As for a 2♦ rebid, that is wrong for two reasons. The hand is far too good for a 2♦ rebid and it would deny 4 card heart support. Both 2♦ and 3♦ rebids would be major errors. Can 3♦ be a fit jump with ♥ support? If not then rebid ♥ after ♦ where approprate.

So far... nobody rebid or jump to diamonds.

If slam is on ... are you sure it is in ♥ ? Anybody play fit jump here?

[hv=d=s&v=e&s=shat87daqt743cat2]133|100|Scoring: IMP 1♦ (-) 1♥ (1♠) ?[/hv] This is the last board recently played at Main Bridge Table. Please don't laugh at my choices ... i am a beginner indeed. :) Conventions are welcome. Gee I have almost forgot 4♥ is also an option. ;) For those who choose an instant 4♥ please vote for "Others..." and may post "4♥" Sorry and thx 18 MAR ask: Does your choice differs without the overcall? Thx again. How to go to 7♦ after a splinter?