pooltuna

because I would rather play 2♥ or 2♠ rather than 3♣ or 3♥

RUN!!!! and run fast!....so 2♥....this is based on what is IMO the best use of the XX for the given situation :)

I vote for the 2♠ game try as it dumps the decision on partner :rolleyes: but I really want to hear 3♥ if partner has 3 small ♠ :D

hand 1] Well given LOTT, our 9 card fit, the great value of my high cards to partner, my short suits for ruffing ....I pass and try and beat 3♦ hand 2] I owe partner a call 2♠

He is probably referring to your general style of posts rather than anything specific in this thread.

♠♠ okay say you try 2♦ and one of the following is an auction around the table (1♠) 2♦ (2♠) pass; (4♠) ? (1♠) 2♦ (3♦) pass; (4♠) ? (1♠) 2♦ (4♦) pass; (4♠) ? (1♠) 2♦ (3♠) pass; (4♠) ? (1♠) 2♦ (4♠) pass; pass ? so now what do you do? note that 5♦ here foists the decision on them and it could very well be a bad one especially if you are willing to risk an X of 5♠

Q1] with 2 working queens and having passed 1♠ initially I think E could risk 3♥ Q1] same as previous reply

I have heard this referred to as "super matchpoints" since making an overtrick is the difference between winning and losing the board.

smaller but only by .00173913. However 32 trump breaks are only part of the odds story as far as making this hand goes. :)

oh goody essentially a 33% grand slam :)

strong clubs systems; 1♣. SAYC and others systems that use 2♣ as an artificial game force: 2♣. Mastermind calls: 7♥ :)

Well X is an option. What would 3♦ show? Is it an ask for 3NT with a ♦ stopper? If so that isn't the worst contract you'll ever be in!

So when did south deny a good hand? Over 1♥?

Your partner has to be William Bligh (so what if he was innocent, his reputation precedes him :) )

So what are you trying to achieve by passing 3♦ the best partial? IMO the 3♦ caller ought to bail at 3♣ with a really weak hand even with a long ♦ suit or accept that any call (s)he makes will be a game forcing one. Since IMO the 3♦ call is forcing; passing it is a clear error.

last guess time opponents 5♦

This X is playable as penalty but needs agreement since the Meta-agreement policy for this forum is all Xs are TO except penalty by specific agreement :)

yes unless this is within the strength partner would expect for earlier bidding.

This is bad because it makes your overcall range unmanageably wide

a simple yes or no answer is not possible because this depends entirely on your agreements. So if you have agreed to open any 11 HCP hand yes if you have agreed to play 2/1 I would say no.

I guess fairly evenly divided is not clear enough. I was suggesting the average value of the other 3 hands is 7.333333 so you are probably facing somewhere between 5 and 9 HCP as for 10-10-2 that is pretty much against the odds if you are singling out partner for the 2 and as any simul will probably show.

It is not a lie for me but the OP says 2♠ promises 4 in his system. I am advocating bidding 2♠ even tho it promises 4. And you should be trying to solve his problem because nobody here (well at least me) gives a sh-- how you play 2♠ in your system. Maybe you are suggesting the OP should modify his system...if so just SAY SO.

I think if you did a simul you would find the winning call is 6♣ followed by 6♦ (assuming you were allowed only one call)

I think double is the %age call but 2NT or even 3NT are within reason as the remaining HCP appear to be fairly evenly divided as I am in 4th seat after 3 passes

okay. What word would you use to describe a call that is a card short of what your system notes say is promised?