PhantomSac

Hamman often says stuff like this also, but he is a 4 card major person. In 5 card majors it is terrible advice.

I'd pass

Seems like eugene is saying that he considers rebids when opening, and jeremy is saying he doesn't simply because he has played enough to know what he will rebid on the common hands within a few seconds, which eugene agrees with. The only disagreement seems to be whether or not the fact that you have a bad rebid in a common situation should dissuade you from opening. I think Jeremy is saying that that will never cause him to not open, whereas eyhung is saying on borderline hands it may cause him to not open. I guess I kinda agree with them both, it's not really much of a consideration, but on the very borderline hands I would pass if I have some "bad" rebids, and open with "good rebids." For instance I might open with a 5422 that I would pass on 4522 on a very marginal hand (not playing flannery), or pass a 1453 and open a 1354 very marginal hand. Overall though it would be very rare that this would be the deciding factor for me.

I think he was talking about making a preemptive raise, in the sense that there are literally players who do so with xxxx xxx xxx xxx. But that advice could still be applied here to some extent. Guess we can wait for gwnn to decide this, but pretty sure he was talking about a simple raise. I also learned a lot from that post.

Really clear pass

You definitely need a bid to show both majors over the 1N bid if partner opened 1m imo.

Sorry jchiu, but your trap pass was lol

I'd bid 2D the first time, not sure if it's right.

You get more MP on defense than declaring? That is truly bizarre and pretty hard to believe (not that I don't believe you, it is just so unusual that it shocks me). Edit: I thought about this and came to the conclusion that you must compete way too much so that you are only defending when it's very clear to do so, and are thus hurting your average when declaring and boosting your average when defending. Any chance this is the case? What % of hands are you declaring? Obv there are other possible explanations like you bid very badly in general and are a good card player, so defense is good for you since your bidding doesn't matter whereas you usually just declare bad contracts, but I doubt that's the case obv.

Then how would you bid 4333 with three small hearts and adequate strength? I'd bid 3S but I grant your point, maybe 4H should show that.

[hv=n=saqtxxhkjdaxcaj8x&s=sha9xxdkqt9xxct9x]133|200|[/hv] LHO opens 1H, and you get to 6D on the CK lead. Plan your play.

Seriously. Gnasher is the best poster ever, but I cannot disagree with him more in basically every forcing pass thread!

3D

I think 4H shows 4144, maybe I'm crazy. With 5 spades I would rebid spades.

I would bid 3H with a forcing hand. I don't understand all these forcing 4 of a minor jumps when cuebids are available tbh. Similarly I think stuff like 1D 1S 2C 4C or 1D 1S 2D 4D are just shapely invite, not forcing. In this auction especially we already have no way to invite in diamonds (3D is constructive but not really invite obv), and we can just bid 3H then diamonds with diamonds, so whatever. Sometimes they bid 4H on your left and you'd rather have bid 4D forcing rather than 3H, but I think having a way to invite is more important than that.

LOL for the first reason, then lol for the second reason. Anyway 3♦ is wtp why is this problem here? The problem is you could easily miss a game, and possibly miss a slam, if you bid 3D. Having 5 small spades is really often given that partner will have a stiff spade a lot, and even if he has a doubleton spade it could be our hand for game pretty easily if he doesn't have a lot of heart wastage. I would definitely bid 4D on this hand.

The diamond 8 means you can pick up QT/Q9 doubleton onside. Of course this means you will lose to QT9 so it's only 1 extra combo, but in practice maybe you will pick up QT9 also because they will likely lead from xxx diamonds since its the unbid suit, and maybe if they lead 2nd high you can figure it out, or maybe you will get a pretty good count and figure it out (like if RHO has 2 spades and 3 hearts and LHO doesn't show out in clubs on the AK), or maybe if they don't lead a diamond RHO will forget to falsecard the queen on the 2nd round etc. The diamond 8 also means you might get a helpful ten of diamonds lead! Look at 655321's auction, The DT is a very likely lead from T976, or T9765 and possible from T975. Of course maybe they can figure out to lead low, but a few people would.

Why would this be forcing? Pass, you probably have 2 tricks on defense, hopefully 3, then maybe you can set them 1.

Results... responder was Bob Hamman and he thought his pass of 4H was bad... I thought he was resulting himself even though I know he doesn't really result. At the other table it went 1S p 2H 4D(!) p 5D 6C p 6H. I overcalled 4D on x xx KQJTxx Kxxx and think it's quite likely that the opps would have had trouble getting there had I just bid 3D, so ultimately I probably get the charge for losing this swing. I thought if anyone didn't do enough it was opener, but I thought their final auction was reasonable.

lol i completely misread this auction! I didn't know there was a jump. Obv 3H is GF sorry. I thought it was 1H X 2H p p X p 2S p 3H or something, so I was wondering why everyone was like obv forcing...Actually I think I just read it as 2H X p 2S p 3H p ? To answer karlsons question again, yes I think it's obvious that a cue is GF once partner has shown game invitational values.

Not to me, I think partner can retreat to 3S and be passed. edit: I won't delete so that people can see my stupidity, but I misread auction when I said this.

Yes, also because imo the strong club bidder will often pass the double very aggressively and without trump length on balanced hands. Still, surely doubling 5H with xx hearts and 6-4 primed out is awful once they've bid 5H. South had an easy 6C bid. Does he really expect partner to have much heart length/values? Even something like KJxx x Kxxx Qxxx is a very good slam, and add a little more and its cold. If you pass 5H partner will double with hands like that. South should just acknowledge the fact that the opps will always have 10 hearts here and sometimes 11, and they'll almost always have the high ones, and bid accordingly.

5H, hopefully they play the stupid agreement that they're in a force over a 5M jump when theyre red/white.

6C on 1. On 2 it depends on who the opps are for sure, if they are the type who might not know X is takeout or might pass it too much then pass, but against most good players I would bid 5H, disagree with jdonn that there is much of a chance at all of them passing it out. Seems like LHO is going to bid 4S almost always, and if he has less than 4 spades somehow he will often bid 4N or 5m.

Last time I tried it RHO won their jack lol. It is a very good play and not one that I would expect many even great players to find every time, and definitely not obv.