Lovera

Until now we have considered 5♠ as query for 3rd round controll correlated with the Ace suit indicated. But what about 5NT instead of ? The meaning is not for extra lengh but information on King(s) starting cue bid but and when the answer is in the suit of the Ace this meaning King (and Ace) plus another King aside. Let' s suppose that has been indicated(=determinated) the Ace of diamond. Then after 5NT if 6♣ is the answer means King of club and Ace of diamond; with 6♦ as answer AK ♦ and another King.

As i have said in "How not to get to 7" in Interesting bridge hands this type of bidding and relatives answeres becaming from the same source that is the "Asking Bid" by Ely Culbertson. But this one was developed in two time. This part that i am discussing is correlated with the Old Asking Bid (when the answer [at an asking bid previously done] has indicated an Ace..).

In "Bidding a suit at 6-level after RKC .." in Expert Class Bridge (see too) i have indicate in post 6 the negative case and relative answer and in post 19 the ansewers positives usefull to investigate if are the conditions for a grand slam.

Gwinn, you come from Holland but i am refferring principally to american and english people because they known better (and i think you too) Ely Culbertson author of this system of slam bidding the "New Asking Bid" that licterally stratigraph hand for shape informations and controlls. Because i'm moving on this "theme" from much time and in different posts if you want an explication i am available to clear to you, bye.

As i think many people should have understood, all answers that i have product every time that i starting to query, were in application of an already predeterminate system for this type of biddings. Infact these ones came from "The New Asking Bid" section third round controll and relative reponses by Ely Culbertson and you can see an example in my post 21 for the case of the topic.

Is not because Bbradley say so but because Bbradley reports the explanation of Gib in bidding and relative pointing (see Gib chart of system). With the occasion : 6♣ meaning is 1/3 keys and a void without indication of Q. I instead i have indicate (see RKB 3014) this my variation : 4NT-5♣(=1/4), 5♦(=query for Q)-5NT(=yes Q plus a void), 6♠.(Lovera)

I think at splinter as an "adjective" for the hand and to use when you have not a better descriptive (generically speaking) bidding. (En passant : i have used google translated for your post and finally the translation was interesting.)

For instance thanks at rmnka447 for having get to start a dialogue that i am getting on two "tables", as i've said in post 55. To delimitate : i don't consider, on this stage, cue bid but "only" RKCB as point to start. As usually we can consider it when we have two Aces (almost) - you are saying two keys(=A+King of trump) by East. But it is not yet this one the point. I, infact, save bidding starting RKCB by West and, pay attemption, i maneged RKCB in a different and more advanced way. This one is allowed because this convention (RKCB) "is opened" in its structure to this insertness (expecially about this part) and i have demonstred how can be possible and maneged it in post 53. This argoument involves many parts to explain, bye.

What i had said : actually is on 34th position. I want to say that this "mechanism" and what i have explained with a detailed analisys in "RKC question .." in Expert Class Bridge (i suggest to see) became from the same source.

Look at this hand to understund better what i am talking : http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&myhand=M-33972267-1436635621On the other tables bidding was more simple ending always in 4♥. I think here is better to bid 3♠ as splinter so partner knows about 1-6-3-3. After 4♥ eventual 4NT gets 5♣(=1key the Ace of club) and 5♦=(? for Q). Now with 10 card fit Q should be indicated also if lacking but here at six level and with any extra taking one down if bidded 6♥. But if is changed the hand with one fewer diamond now we have possibility to indicate Q/10 card fit bidding 6♦=(K/x second round control) for little slam. North : ♠ QJ52 ♥ 10854 ♦ 42 ♣ AJ3 South ♠ 7 ♥ AKJ962 ♦ A65 ♣ K87 Bidding : W - N - E p S 1♥, p - 2♥ - p - 3♣, p - 4♥ - all p. Spade are divided 4-4 (A in W), heart are 2-1 (Q in E), club Q is second in W. (In S is debitschka) Sat. Jul 11 07:27 PM ACBL indy MP Robot duplicate classic 12 boards.

This hand ends in slam. For this aim is more indicate don't hide heart suit. About this situation - with an hand that have splinter bidding possibility already Benito Garozzo told - is better to bid 2♥. Fourthemore we can bid splinter subsequently. But yet if we don't splinter before RKC can bid after as answere to query for Q.

The answere must not be considered automatic because if, lacking Q with an hand balanced and any K aside, we bid, without extra, 6 ♥(=trump agree) can be that slam is not and than, in this case we must stay on 5♥ denying 10 card fit and so Q, whilest with an extra i.e. a second round control (K/x) we can indicate it showing Q or 10 card fit without Q.

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This is another hand that i have taken from Romanet book "Total Bridge" (i have only inverted club with heart and K and 9 position). North ♠ Kx ♥ 9xxx ♦ AKxx ♣ Kxx South ♠ Axxx ♥ AKxxx ♦ xx ♣ Ax. Bidding (S/N) : 1♥-2♦, 2NT-3♥, 4NT-5♣, 5♦-5♥, 5♠ and N not answer 6♥ because has not losers in spade nor 6♦ only 3rd round indicating Ace of diamond neither 5NT because King is not alone whilest bidding 6♣ with meaning of positive answere about 3rd round control with K in query suit plus K in club. Now S knows that can ruff spade and en passant if trumps are divided 2-2 between opp there are 13 tricks.

Hallo, about your topic this situation is divided on two cases : Queen lacking on the line when partner tells 1 keycard that can be in trump - your case - or indicating an Ace aside trump. I, to complete possibilites, starting post #25 i' m going to analyzed about answeres that are. Than, in this phase, i invite you to tell me what do you think or if you are agree about it. Bye.

When i' ve written my post #29 views were 950.Subsequently are getting to 955 then 963, 972 and now 982. It is more usefull any form to condivide and not to limit yourselves only to see this topic on this stage of analysis or study i am going on. You are welcome if partecipate your thinking about what i have told, bye.

Again i don't understand why there is not intervent to point anything or ask for a clearness being me available to. As you can see i am talking at BBO people and it should be usefull to show thinking about this insert methodolgy in RKB. May i have yours partecipations ? Bye.

May you tell me if agree this method that i am applying - these ones are not my biddings - to integrate what i'm going to post ? Thanks.

It being my willing to explain in more posts, i continue to say about answere(s). Than when RKCB bidder goes on quering in spade ask for Q or doubleton and : if is not answere is trump agree at minimum level as here but having instead Q you must indicate the suit in which A(=key) is and it'd be the case if in spade trade 2 with W's Q so 5♠(=? for Q)-6♦(=suit in which is A indicating Q/xx in spade). This "determination" will be usefull subsequently.

On renowing, as a form of collaboration and/or to show interest, to help me to find any little slam to adapt in heart trump suit for explanation, let us see this hand (from "Bridge Suspense avec Pierre Jais" pagg. 160-161) played by Jean-Michel Boulenger in a friendly duplicate (respect to original hand i have changed spade with heart and in club A and K so having): N ♠ 10872 ♥ 765 ♦ AQ7 ♣ K83 S ♠ A9 ♥ AK10432 ♦ KJ6 ♣ A7 W ♠ KQJ ♥ Q ♦10983 ♣ 96542 E ♠6543 ♥ J98 ♦ 542 ♣ QJ10. In a bidding that is S/N 1♥-1NT, 3♥-4♥, 4NT-5 ♣, 5♦-5♥ now pay attemption because being in S the two top honors is "consequently determinate" as Ace (of diamond in this case) the key card and it allow to explain more clearly the relative answere(s) on 5♠ query.

Because it'd usefully to study the other case - one keycard(=Ace out of trump) - being possible to difference vary situations if anyone can indicate a real hand, thanks. Infact what serves is an hand with four keys as 4NT bidder and no Q on the line in trump agree almost initially because this gadget seems to work with a key less too.

Awake, in the middle of the night. Let's begin with a classic :

In this situation where a Q ask meaning that bidder not has it and when partner denies Q tellling (fourthemore) 10 card fit is not it and being grand excluded eventually 5♠ assume query for controll in suit with answere 5NT for yes K or also Q (and K in other suit that cannot show at other level) whilest,if extra are to pass at six level, 6x answere meaning Q in spade and K in other suit indicated because remain to estabilish if to play 5NT or 6 of agree trump.

When i have discovered this topic are, if i just remember, about 2800 views whilest now there is an increment more 10/15 per cent and probably enter in top 30 list round one years ago. Than i am glad of it and suppose meaning is that is interesting (also as a natural and easy methodology to query).

I prefer to follow my system (Stayman) that is not particolary favoureble to opening bidding of 3♣ and 3♦. These bidding have probably any preempt effort but more often can indicate at to opp that you have shortness in three suit and poor force. This instead is right (not vul) to bid 3♣: ♠ 95 ♥86 ♦ 32 ♣ KQJ10864 if partner bid 3NT you pass (pagg. 205 and 206 of the system book).