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This one really interests me as well... http://www.bridge-wiese.de/konvent/Opt2bids.htm

Also, instead of making a new thread, I will post this here. We play 3/3 minors(inverted), w/ a 15-17 NT. I have been playing around with the idea of completely ditching 2C and making 1C one round forcing. (12-14 balanced, 12-14 w/ distributional values, 18-19 balanced, 22+ balanced, or 20+ unsuitable for other openings. 1C-1D would need to be a negative forcing bid, or a GF hand w/ diamonds opposite a 12-14 balanced hand. We would also require a signal to show 2C openings after 1C-xy-??. My thoughts were to turn 2D into the signal. We lose the ability to show a reverse in the minors, however. Edit: This would work rather well w/ a weak NT also. 1C*-1D* auction, we have either distributional values or a 15+ NT hand. Less risk of being thrown in a bad contract.

http://www.bridge-wiese.de/konvent/Matt.htm Anybody have any experience with this convention?

Thanks for the input. I also understand that Multi as a bid is not much of a positive, which is why I want to work on bids it is opening up. My thoughts are that playing against mostly intermediate players, preemptive/distributional bids are the way to go. Do you know of any good conventions that I can ponder over?

To me it shows at least 5 diamonds, and mild support to clubs...I don't see it as being a stop ask, but you could be looking at a game value hand. 1H can possibly be 7+ HCP, with a 2H response showing 6+ or really nice hearts. If we go off of minimum values, we are holding 24+ HCP. If you have spade stops, and not sure about agreement, I would show 2S I guess. But to me, pass is out of the question unless you know it is going down.

Hello, I am here to ask about opinions regarding the use of these bids in use w/ a Multi 2♦. My goal is to make better preemptive uses of openings above the multi. These openings will be used at a local club ranging from novice-expert. Currently we are using 2♥/2♠ as 11-14 total points (doubletons are not regarded quite as much). A NV, well supported 6 card ♥/♠ suit may be opened at the 3 level. 2N is a 5/5 ♣/♦ preempt, which we have as of yet had a chance to use. I like this bid a lot, but it's frequency is quite low. 3♣/3♦ openings are 6 card suit preemptive. I really look forward to replies, as I have been throwing some of these ideas around in my head for awhile, but never really tried to put anything together. Don Edit: I have been doing some changing to the bids. My more current openings are... 1♣: 12-14 NT | 18-19 NT | 12-19 5+♣ | 20+ U/B | 22+ NT 1♦: 12-14 NT | 18-19 NT | 12-19 5+♦ 1♥: 12-19 | 5+♥ 1♠: 12-19 | 5+♠ 1N: 15-17 NT 2♣: Suggestions? (Mini-Roman?, 18-19 NT or 18-19 5+cM?, Precision style 2♣?, what else?) 2♦: Multi | weak ♥/♠ | 18-19 long ♣/♦ | 20+ 5+♣/♦ | 20-21 NT 2♥: Flannery | 11-15 (5♥/4♠) 2♠: 8-11 ♣+♦ (5/5) | ♥+♠ (5/5) | 12-14 7♥/7♠ (AKxxxxx, AQJxxxx, KQJxxxx) 2N: 12-14 | 5/5 ♦/♥/♠ (Just a thought...need input/suggestions) 3♣: 6-10 | 6+♣ 3♦: 6-10 | 6+♦ 3♥: 6-10 | 6+♥ (solid ♥) | 7+♥ 3♠: 6-10 | 6+♠ (solid ♠) | 7+♠ 3N: Gambling | AKQxxxx ♣/♦ I am debating using the 18-19 NT or 18-19 5+cM for 2C. This allows for 1C/D-xy-2N to mean whatever I want it to mean. Strong hand+support, strong unbalanced ♣s, etc. 1H/1S openings drop to 12-17 HCP also. 1H-xy-2S also becomes 16-17 reverse rather than 16-19. This includes 1H-xy-2H-2S being that Flannery is in use. My original ideas are below...feel free to comment on them as well. I am debating using something like this, but want to see your thoughts on how useful the bids may be, how often they will come up, and negative/postiive effects they may bring to the system as a whole. Also, at our local club, many play a 2N bid as preemptive 5/5 D/H/S NOT C. I do not find this to be very useful and tough to try and find a major fit holding 3D, 1/2H, and 3S. 2♥: Flannery - 11?(12-15 HCP) 5♥+4♠ 2♠: 5/5 ♦+major - preemptive (2N is forcing and asks which major partner holds) 2N: 6+ minor - preemptive 3♣: 5/5 minors - preemptive 3♦: 5/5 majors - preemptive PROS (IMO) -I love the idea of including Flannery w/ Multi at the same time. -I get to include a preemptive bid for all 5/5 holdings. CONS (IMO) -The 2S opening may have issues finding the major fit in a part-score battle. -The 2N opening may lose some good sacrifice opportunities. If moved to 2S to allow 2N to be forcing, 2N is open for opps. Having the current 2S bid at 2N also removes the ability to show which major is held w/o going past 3D. -We may find ourselves too high in a 3H/S contract where most are playing at the 2 level. BOTH? NOT SURE... -The 11-14 TP current bid is not usually extremely common. I do like it's constructive/preemptive values, but is it worth it?

Would a male only bridge event be considered sexist? :unsure:

I do want to see an elo rating system set up...I would find it fun.

I would rather be on lead against a vulnerable NT with that hand my friend. If X is penalty, then it is the only bid I am willing to possibly make.

In response to a 1C opening (Better minor w/inverted, 12-19 HCP), are these responses worth it? 1C > 3+C 12-19 HCP -1D > 4+H 6+ HCP --1H > 4H 12-14 HCP (if weak NT, shows unbalanced shape, 5+C, 4H) --2H > 4H 15-17 HCP (if std NT, shows unbalanced shape, 5+C, 4H) --3H > 4H 18-19 HCP 1C > 3+C 12-19 HCP -1H > 4+S 6+ HCP --1S > 4S 12-14 HCP 1C > 3+C 12-19 HCP -1S > 4+D 6+ HCP --1N > balanced 12-14 HCP --2D > 5+C, 4+D 12-14 HCP 1C > 3+C 12-19 HCP -1N > balanced 6-9 HCP My thoughts are that by doing this, we leave room to describe our hands further without going too high. The typical 1C-1D bids now become 1C-1S block 4th seat from showing a major without going to the 2 level. The downside, however, is that 1C-1D-1H leaves room for opponents to come into the bidding. Doubles could also be made to show suit during the artificial bids. Does the good outweigh the bad?

Thoughts on using something like this? With a 15-17 NT and 12-14 NT... 1♣: 3+♣ (12-19 HCP) -2♣: 4+♣ (10-16 HCP) -2♦: 10-11 NT (8-9 w/ 12-14 NT?) invite denying ♣ (possible 4 card ♥/♠) OR (17+ HCP) NT -2♥: 5+♥ (17+ HCP) -2♠: 5+♠ (17+ HCP) -2N: 5+♣ (6/7 HCP) -3♣: 5+♣ (8/9 HCP) Sadly, this doesn't work out the same for a 1D opening. 1♦: 3+♦ (12-19 HCP) -2♦: 4+♦ (10-16 HCP) -2♥: 5+♥ (17+ HCP) -2♠: 5+♠ (17+ HCP) -2N: 5+♦ (6/7 HCP) -3♣: (17+ HCP) NT (4cM possible) -3♦: 5+♦ (8/9 HCP) I lose the NT invite, but keep a SJS for balanced strong hands, however, a 2/1 ♣ bid is still there. It may not happen often, but the 1♣-2♦ may also remove 4th seats ability to accurately overbid diamonds, hearts, or spades.

SJS... 1♦-2♠ 3♦-4♣* 5♥*-5♠* Not sure after this...King ? is pointless, and partner assumes we may not have much support to spades...easy 7♦ or a gut instinct 7♠, no regrets...

I do have a few things to bring up more. One of the points of my suggestion to move my 6-7 inverted jump raises to 2NT is to allow for the 15-17 NT to stop in a NT contract at MP. Sure, we might go down 1 sitting with a bad 21 HCP fit, however, we most likely have an 8 card club suit to help the cause. My concern is that by jumping to 3C with 6-9 HCP and 5 clubs, we put a lot of stress on the 15-17 NT 1C opening. How can a nice 16-17 tell the difference between a 6 HCP minimum and a 9 HCP max? The contract may be wrong sided, but I still like this better at MP. The only problem I see with your suggestion about replacing minor jump raises is that it somewhat defeats the purpose of an inverted jump. 1C-2D leaves room for opponents to bid majors at the 2 level. I also have other methods for showing a 13-15 or 18-19 balanced hand than jumping to 2NT. If I cannot bid a 2/1 in same suit, I can do a 2D, 2H, or 2S raise.

Hello, My partner and I are currently playing better minors using inverted replies. My inquiry is that I am debating trying a 12-14 weak NT. Having a direct jump to 3♣/3♦ could cause some bidding issues. If my partner is sitting on a hand like this... ♠: AJxx ♥: KJxx ♦: AQ ♣: xxx And I want to make an inverted raise to 3♣, the only thing my partner knows is that I most likely have 5 ♣, and 6-9 HCP. The bidding will go, 1♣-3♣ My partner certainly does have a nice 15 HCP opposite 5 ♣ in this situation. 3NT may not hurt anything even with 21 HCP, however, what if we are looking at a part-score in MP? Do many of you think this could become a problem at times using a weak NT with inverted raises? If so, does this sound like a plausible solution? We play 10+ HCP 2/1 bids, 2NT is currently a balanced 17-19 HCP jump raise, which honestly, we do not have much use for. I was thinking that if we choose to adapt a weak NT, we can keep our inverted raises by turning 2NT into the lower limit of 6-7 HCP for clubs, and 3C be 8-9 HCP showing more support to a 15-17 NT. Is this worth a try? I don't see it as being a huge issue, being an uncommon bid, but I would like to hear what you all have to say. Many thanks, Don

Thanks for input. The only situation I saw of this hand gaining more information from a 1C opening is if partner replies 1NT, 2C, or 3C. I do not know the odds of the distribution denying my partner a 4 card major, but I can tell they are lower than average. The other thing about putting NT into your hand is that I prefer my partner declaring a NT contract, but you cannot always get it the way you want. A 2C rebid is too weak IMO, and 2D is out of the question as you will be signaling a reverse. Edit: 2C/3C not inverted would say much also...

NV for everyone if that affects your decision.

This may not be extremely interesting, but I will put it here for opinions. You are playing a very standard 2455 system. It is MP at a mid-level local club. You count your cards, flip them over, and see... ♠96 ♥985 ♦KJ7 ♣AKQJ2 I chose to open 1NT over 1C. I had 2 very bad suits, but I felt that the possibility of making 5 club tricks alone upgraded this to a 1NT opening. I also felt I am far too strong to reply 1NT to a 1C-1H/S reply. By bidding 1NT, I also have a better chance to find out about 5 card majors from partner directly. Do you all agree w/ my choice?

Yes. My partner and I currently play 0314 over 5NT K also, so this wasn't an option. The strong side suit does in fact include something like AKJxx, KQJxx, AQJxx, or possibly a very solid 4 card suit or AKT9x.

If ♥ sit 4/1 you have no chance that I can see. Play the KQ of trumps and lead ♦ for a return. Play the ♠ and hope for a doubleton. Play the ♦ to cut again. ♣A followed by another ♣. Get the lead and pull trump to cash remaining 2 spades. I hope? Play the diamond to partner and return for a cut, return heart to partner and play another diamond to cut again. Pull another trump and play clubs 2 rounds? I will go with that instead.

Thought about that as well going with a 2C-xy-2NT, but was after my bid... <_< 2C opening would also open room to possibly get a little more info.

You cannot ignore partner not showing the ♣A...If he decided that he did not need to after your 4D jump, I give you permission to smack him with a fish.

MP - NV vs V We bid the hand as follows...We play 3355 w/ Inverted/Multi varient. You open 2D NV showing a weak major (ranging from 6-10 TP), standard 20-21 NT, or 18-19 long minor/20+ 5 card minor unsuitable for 2NT. Max/min 6 card suits may be bid at the 3 level NV if suit is supported well. You are dealt..(SHDC) AQJ 97 AQJT6 AK3 You reply with 2NT to show a balanced 20-21 NT. Partner continues with 3H to transfer to S. How would you reply? Full partnership hands and how we bid them...

I got this hand with a random partner...we had bid it... 1D-2C 2D-2H 2S-3D (I preferred having North play NT) ALL PASS This hand seemed nearly impossible for SAYC or 2/1 to find a slam without being very optimistic. Too much room had been taken away to show shape, points, and NT supports to safely investigate slam. I am not a Precision player, but was curious how the basic BBO system would handle this hand?

North is dealt... ♠: AT63 ♥: J ♦: KQJT64 ♣: A7 South is dealt... ♠: 94 ♥: AQ4 ♦: A98 ♣: KJT62 North is 2nd to bid after a pass. How would you and your partner bid this hand? Would you be interested in a slam based on your pairs bidding? Which systems handle these minor suit slams best without interfering with a possible 3NT game? Another thing worth mentioning I suppose would be your thoughts playing MP and IMP.

Who cares where I posted..honestly no clue which to put it in. "Natural" is a matter of opinion to begin with! :o To me "natural" is more of how closely a system is to the original version. Being that a 12-14 NT alters the bidding in various ways, I considered it to be "unnatural". But then again, could this be a "natural" weak NT. :unsure: :blink: :huh: Just want some advice on how to adapt to it.