no need to apologize. In truth most of the time when I pick up the cards I also shuffle them 3 or 4 times b4 putting back in(for those who try to draw inferences from the ordering). As for Davy Crockett, do not know my relatedness, altho had a distant relative die with him and some relatives married Daniel Boone descentants. That doesn't keep me from hunting JBear and having a random sorted hand is just that, random. Live with it.