OK, I guess when it was still explained to Cascade and he STILL did not understand he is just not very smart. Fair enough. I had always assumed his literal take on everything without thinking of context was on purpose rather than stupidity. My bad. Gnasher: You say it was obvious in the context, but that I should say I didn't explain myself very clearly. That doesn't make sense to me, but whatever. I will assume all readers have read a thread and don't just read my post individually and take it out of the context of the thread.