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because you might be going for -300 when you have +200 or more coming to you... that thinking is fundamentally unsound (you always run some risk, but bridge is a bidders game: when in doubt bid 1 more etc.) Bill Absolutely agree I would double as north (with regular pard) showing similar hand and pard will bid 5

♦8 would hardly be interpreted as singleton as you preferred not to lead ♦ So pard probably wants to give you a ruff with having a safe trick.. probably trump ace. Play small... Else it could be singleton, then use lav

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Very true - its still -1. :)

I misspoke. Once declarer sees partner's entry, that will be the suit he attacks. So upon the ♦A, the ♦K gets knocked out and thats it. Look again. After ♦K partner having Qxx retuns ♣ and we get 2♣+1♦+1♥+1♥♠

2 hearts you mean. I doun't see what problem arises for defenders if he plays ♦A-♠ south returns ♥ and defence takes 3♥+1♠+1♦ There is no blockage with pard having QTx If he tries to knock out A♠ duck first ♠, and take next one followed by ♠ return.. this would be great for defenders as they will get 1♦+1♥+3♠+2♣

With this hand, why didn`t he win the first heart, play a spade and play on diamonds? He will win when the diamond finesse is on or hearts are 4-4 or when the defence continus hearts but the one with the 5. heart does not hold the king of diamonds. He has one stopper in club but two in hearts, ducking the first trick could be very wrong. Because he is waiting for you to swtch to ♣ holding ♣Txx

Return highest ♥ If declarer plays ♠ you win and return ♥ If declarer plays ♦ you must suggest ♣ switch as laudly as you can :) Also pard should realize that only way to beat contract is with ♣ switch,success guarantted with partner having xx T9xxx Kxx Qxx Problem with playing small ♣ immediately is that with Txx in clubs declarer will survive 2♣+2♥+5♦ Hate me :ph34r:

Nothing is perfect in this world.... i vote for 3N

I dont find pass that unbelievable. Flat hand no ruffing value, and probably wasted king of clubs. Partner may have streched to act with shortness. I would like to defend with this hand. I might bid 3NT, at IMPS but would give some consideration at passing. Thats why double would work better from partner, so you will have maybe easier time now;) Pass over 3♥ is auto for me. Bidding very conservative 3rd-level overcalls and then expecting pard to raise with hand like this is not winning bridge.

I advise playing: 1♦ - 5♦+ 11-GF 1♠ - 11/15 or 11/16 2♣ - 11/15 6♣+ or 5♣ 4♦(no 4♥/♠) Comments: Hate precision 2♣ opening in WJ. + Examined reasons (in WJ05 book)not to play 1♦ showing 5 are ridiculous. And it is not that useful for 1♦ to be limited say 11/17 as 1♥ or 1♠. 1♠ as 11/17 a bit too wide for my preferred system over 1♠. It is also possible to play 1♦ 2♦ in FN style...

Pard will shoot me if i pass. :) 4333 usally sucks, but not this one, if pard has some shape my hand should be pretty useful. Taking pard for balanced is antipercentage. I voted for 3♥, but now i like 4♥ better... World belongs to crazy people...

Really doun't like this. 9-14 range is common, but i am sure that you wount gain reasonable profit with this, maily because you are playing vs. field, and will often have to guess if it was opened at other tables. If it was, you are behind. But if it is being passed, you will prefer auction P-[P]-1x. (ok there will be also some good deals with 9-10/11, but at high level you will lse more than gain) Also 6 card range and 4 card M wount help. 1D is simply appalling, see no reason to open 9-11 no 4M. But if you want to bid similar 1M i suggest 8-12 range. Almost as common as 9-14 and much more lucrative. Other bids up to you..

Mine too. I use it NV with strong C and nebulous 1D, 2m=either 6m or 5m4om(denies 4M). (about 1D) "I thought that the lack of definition in minor-suit auctions would be costly. Eventually, I learned otherwise. I also learned something else, as is stated in other places in this book: it is not necessary to understand the underlying reason or reasons for the existence of a fact in order for it to be true. The fact still exists, regardless of whether you know why it is a fact or not." >>>The Revision Club System >>>3rd Ed. © 2008 by John Montgomery Hate me :(

From this list only strong club+relays! Interferences problems are trivial(bullshit) comparing to advantages you get through other bids in system. Some mentioned forcing pass, but i would better not comment those who suggest, Pass as 13+ 14+ Do Sounds nice only in practice. Works mainly vs. poor opponents <_< .....Living in dream world? Even without absolutely no opponent bidding, still, there are better systems, since, for perfect (with no opponent bidding)system pressure on 1/2 seat and 3/4th seat should be equal. Natural, also is no good, wide ranges and so on.... FN is also far from perfect 1♣+1♦+1♥+1♠=overall is sth like 20% 1N is, i dount know, 15%?? 2x are also far from perfect, i see too many disadvantages in on bidding and competitve bidding. Polish club is really dreadgul method. Comparing to strong club where majority of opps try to use destructive interference(and loses), here such interference if used would lead to much more bad scores for 1C bidders. I dount really know, why so few use their defenses to polish club and play simplified natural approach.

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i would interprete as negative/take-out

On the contrary, the problem is that 1♦ might have a 5cM but might not. You could play that 1♦ was 12-15 with a 5+ major and just pass the 12-15's without. If partner will open his 8-11's opposite a passed hand you won't miss much. Very interesting suggestion!

1♣ i rate 51+% (if not Vul-nv);(Ok) 1♦ i can't find words do describe this absurdity...(1♦ 25% ===> 1♣ is ~9%)(NOT Ok) 1M is key feature, thus it is strongest point in this system.(OK, especially NV) However, real profit comes only from copetitive bidding ===> I dount think you are in better position comparing to P(you)-[P]-sth-[P] And relays are for slams, definetly not priority here. 1N is very rare (NOT OK) 2m 8-11? it is like playing 2♦ preemptive(which can't(shouldn't) be destructive) , personally i doun't see reason to open these hands at all...(not OK) But if playing this system makes you feel good, play it!

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4m Natural?? :lol: No thanks... for me it shows "good" major hand, that could easily have opened 1H...

>>>You have ♣ KT This is pass for me, and 3♥ is not close

Are they legal? (I think they are) Why i can't find them in top pair cc?(too difficult? myb they dount need them?) Here is one prism signal agreement: http://users.tpg.com.au/bcoles/systems/Defence/prism.htm Sorry, if this issue has already beed examined several times, but i couldnt find the answers... Hate Me :)

Imo 1♥ - 1N GF is ok only if the opening is limited. I played 1♠ nat, 2♣ invitational hands; 2♦ = good heart raise But, now i belive in catchall 1♠ and 2♣ showing spades... 1M-1N should be forcing in all natural systems, but 1♥-1♠-1N allows to get to 1N safelf 1♠ 3+ is another possibilitie, but i dount know.... Hate Me B)

Thanks for suggestion! I will try this...