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After the registration end, I'll let people to have about 10~14 days to finish one challenge with all other players within the same group (at any time/order they prefer). Score can and should be reported (with link to hand) as soon as the match is finished, and it'll be updated to score board by me within 24 hrs. You can also report the situation of an unfinished match toward the end of that period, so we'll know who is the one that is responsible. I'll write more detail tomorrow.

I'm OK with this (16n bds each match), I might have to smaller the group size though, so we don't have to play, for example, 16bdx10matches in the case of 33 entrants(11 player x 3group). Let me lower the cut-off of 8N/5N~5N+4 rule to 25 entrants.

Add adjustment of high # of entries.

You can still try #4 if you want. It'll start right after the registration is over and the group is assigned. It'll stay about a month if you survive to the last match. There is no strict schedule, it will be good as long as you finish the required BBO challenge matches within the time period.

Make a new post but don't know how to pin it.

Can anyone tell me how to pin this post?

All the results are here now. https://www.dropbox.com/s/tn34z1scwspjnx7/All%20events%20result.xlsx?dl=0

I was suggested by people if a player gets angry and drops out after 2:18, 3:17 etc. assigning 12 to the remaining opponents is not fair, I change it to max(12, 20-the drop out player's average of the matches (s)he plays).

Currently what I set in group stage is, For non-finishing match, 1 player responsible = 0VP:12VP both players responsible = 5VP:5VP and drop out w/o notification=ban for next 2 events therefore, the score board will be filled regardless, and N+1 group and N group will stay the same. The 0:12 and 5:5 rule is copied from World University Online Team Championship, let me know if you have better idea.

In the previous event it was 32/48/64. Originally I think 48 & 64 is sufficient, but there are some arguments in event #2 where people think the factor of luck is still too much. I'll adjust # of boards if more people think the matches are too long.

Update at least once (10pm~12pm PDT) everyday. View summary of scores, and group assignment in the following link, https://www.dropbox.com/s/3lsvffdakdu9q8a/BBF%20event%203.xlsx?dl=0 Look at the pairing of quarter-final and semi-final in the link give above.

Announcement (Please check at least once every 24 hours if you participate in this event.) (10/16) Olegru win this event. The result is posted here http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/75137-bbf-challenge-events-results/ (10/15) Please leave comments and feedbacks of this tournament. (10/11) You can start semifinal and final match as soon as it's available. (10/9) Please finish the R16 and R8 ASAP. (10/3) Announce Round of 16 pairing, finish the matches (16 BOARDSX4 SETS) as soon as possible, no later than the end of the week. (9/28) It's crucial to follow the announcement, failing to communicate people and constantly ignoring challenge will result in disqualification from the event. (9/27) It's highly recommended that each person regularly checks his/her own score to ensure they are entered correctly. (9/27) Ovncylmz is now taking the job of updating the score. (9/24) You can see the scores in the dropbox link given in #2 now. (9/23) Group assignment is announced, group round robin stage is over(10/3) -Before the end of this stage, each player has to play a challenge (16 boards, IMP, non-best hand) with each other player at the same group. -Post in this thread to report the score, link to the corresponding hand records must be included. You don't have to convert IMP to VP when reporting score. -Try your best to report several scores at the same reply. HOWEVER, DO NOT REPORT NEW SCORE BY EDITING OLD REPLY. -See the RULE for information about unfinished match. -private message frank0 if you have any further question. Some tips: -It's highly recommended that you finish at least 2 matches within 1 week, at least 4 matches 48hrs before the deadline. -If a match is not accepted 24 hours after you send (yellow), please cancel and resend it. -Login BBO at least twice every 24 hours. -To remove confusion, send a message when you send a challenge that count toward this event (e.g. "The match I just send you count toward BBF challenge event."). -Also send a message when you accept or decline a challenge (e.g. "I accept but will not start playing 5 hours from now." "I decline because I prefer playing this match next week.") -Please also post it here, if a player does not reply to you for a long time, to help us clarify who is responsible for unfinished match. (9/22) Group assignment, rule of advancing to R16 KO will be announced between 9/23 10PM~12AM PDT. (9/22) Registration will be closed soon (at Friday 9/23/2016, 10PM at PDT(PDT=UTC-7)), please post in this thread to register (assume you've not yet contacted ovncylmz before I posted this). ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ See the rule at this link, https://www.dropbox.com/s/hoeccjvk9doso9i/RULE.docx?dl=0

From now on please discuss event 3 here. http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/75018-future-bbf-challenge-format-discussion/

Possible changes suggested by people: -# of boards -IMP/MP -Consider using swiss format? -Better way to even the strength of bracket -Possibility of running a long and accumulative non-best hand IMP/MP pair event. -Detail of side/consolidation event

Bump! ALERT: THIS IS JUST A DRAFT. NOT AN OFFICIAL RULE. DO NOT REGISTER EVENT 3 HERE. Let's discuss the rule of event 3 here (for the next 48 hrs after this draft is posted). Basic Information (Must read) -This is a single player bridge event base on BBO challenge format (IMP, non-best hand). The event is open, no entry fee, and no prize. -One must register/cancel within the registration period, in some rare occasions late entry may be accepted to even the size of the groups. -Participant who is not yet eliminated must see the announcement at least once every 24 hours. -There will be two stages, the Group stage (Players split into groups and play Round Robin within the group) and the Knockout(KO) stage, see the detail in the Group/KO rule section. -Each match in Group stage is scored by VP base on WBF continuous scale. -Unfinished match: In KO stage, whoever responsible loses the match. In group stage, 5VP:5VP if both are responsible, 0VP:max(12VP, 20VP-opp's effective matches average) if one player is responsible. Fail to finish a match without notifying the public with legitimate reason=ban from participating next two events. -People who cannot make it to KO will have an option to continue (for practice and small seeding point award for next events) in a consolidation swiss/RR with some carryover from group stage. The system will be explained after the group matches based on the number of participants. Group/KO rule (Optional, participants do not have to read this, but must follow the announcement in BBF thread.) -The Group stage rule depends on number of participants - If there are 9~23 entrants, 8 people will play KO. If the number of entrants is divisible by 4, we'll form 4 groups of N, and top 2 of each group will play KO (4N rule). If not, we'll use 3N/3N+1/3N+2 rule depends on the remainder of P divided by 3. 3N~3N+2 rule advance to KO= top 2 of each group+(3N: 3rd of each group except the lowest VP one, 3N+1/3N+2: top VP 3rd of N+1 group and play off winner between the other two 3rd place). -Adjustment for 25~63 entrants(16 will play KO): We'll use 8N/5N~5N+4 rule instead of 4N/3N~3N+2 rule. 8N=top 2 of each group advance, 5N~5N+4=top 3 each group plus (5N: top VP 4th, 5N+1: play off winner bet. 4th of N+1 and top VP 4th of N, 5N+2~5N+4: top VP 4th from N+1) -Adjustment for 24 entrants: 4N rule, 16 play KO. -Adjustment for 64+ entrants: hopefully not, may change the format to Spingold/Vanderbilt style pure KO. - # of boards per match in group stage and play off: 16 - Group stage seeding of event number k (k=3 for this event): define seeded players=Top 2 of event k-1 and winner of event k-2, half-seeded players=Top 8 of event k-1, top 4 of event k-2, including all seeded players. Each group may contain at most 1 seeded player, different groups may not have # of half-seeded players difference by 2 or more. Other than these restrictions, players are assigned to each group randomly. - KO seeding: rank by rank of group stage first, then by VP/match. In the case of 3N+1/3N+2: play off winner=#7, highest VP 3rd= #8. -KO stage: standard bracket and seeding. -# of boards in KO stage: 64

I opened another thread to discuss the possible future format. http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/75018-future-bbf-challenge-format-discussion/

Partial Results so far Phil vs manudude03 ovncylmz(+45) vs smerriman olegru vs diana_eva(+16) dadim(+81) vs barmar zebutin(+65, not complete) vs eagles123 jeffford76(+17) vs frank0 broze vs nullve hrothgar vs wackojack(+4, not complete)

I create another thread to discuss the format of future events, from now on let's keep this place only for results reporting and hands discussion.

I create this new thread so that the discussion of the format of the future events (if any) and reporting the result of current event don't mix up. LOOK AT MY RESPONSE BELOW (#3, #4) Register the event at http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/75135-bbf-challenge-event-3/ Some thought, Instead of seeding every round based on the current result, we should make a bracket in the beginning or at least 2nd round. I suggest use some modification of http://cdn.acbl.org/coc/AppendixB2016.pdf for seeding and http://cdn.acbl.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Appendix-C.pdf for the structure of the first round, if we want this event to be pure KO. I also think it's a good idea for longer match in late stage.

Frist Set http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:21b5390c.6f15.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1472604723&u=frank0 Second Set http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:05a0a184.6fd5.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1472687139&u=frank0 I lost by 17IMP. Good luck for jeffford76 on the next round.

gordontd vs olegru(+46) dadim(+37) vs MrAce ovncylmz(+56) vs Vampyr nullve(+10) vs frank0 eagles123 vs Wackojack(+14) diana_eva vs broze(+21) shyams vs Phil(+77) hrothgar (+16) vs barmar smerriman vs jeffford76(+22) phoenix214 vs nekthen manudude03 vs zebutin(+27) If we drop the 2 inactive players seeding next round will be 1. Phil 2. ovncylmz 3. olegru 4. dadim 5. zebutin 6. jeffford76 7. broze 8. hrothgar 9. Wackojack 10. nullve 11. frank0 12. eagles123 13. barmar 14. diana_eva 15. smerriman 16. manudude03 This is not official, let's wait for whoever organizing this event to announce the pairing next round.

Anyone heard anything from phoenix214 and nekthen ?

If I didn't miss anything this is what we have so far. gordontd vs olegru(+38, not complete) dadim(+37) vs MrAce ovncylmz(+56) vs Vampyr nullve(+10) vs frank0 eagles123 vs Wackojack(+14) diana_eva vs broze(+21) shyams vs Phil(+77) hrothgar (+16) vs barmar smerriman vs jeffford76(+22) phoenix214 vs nekthen manudude03 vs zebutin(+27) Anyone message (here or at BBO) the following people: phoenix214, nekthen, gordontd to figure out the issues? Suggestion for the future events, 1. Have a clear rule on time limit of each match and the rule related to withdraw. 2. Consider 3 or 4 way match or RR on the first round.

Score of completed match so far gordontd vs olegru dadim vs nige1 ovncylmz vs Vampyr nullve(+10) vs frank0 eagles123 vs Wackojack(+14) diana_eva vs broze(+21) shyams vs Phil(+??) hrothgar (+16) vs barmar smerriman vs jeffford76(+22) phoenix214 vs nekthen manudude03 vs zebutin(+27) @Phil can you tell us how much you won?