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Here is a hand where our Odd/Even signals helped us to a killing defense: [hv=pc=n&s=sqt42hk62dq5ckq83&w=sak963hqj5dat63ct&n=s7hat74dj98caj964&e=sj85h983dk742c752&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1sdp1npp2spp3cp3nppp]399|300|Opening lead: Sp 6 ( 4th best )[/hv] T1 : ♠ 6 7 J Q T2 thru T6 : Declarer ran five ♣ .... on which West made an ODD ♦ 1st discard .... and East made an ODD ♦ 1st discard. This allowed West to discard his ♦ Ace. After winning 8 tricks Declarer led a ♦ from the board; East hopped up w/K and a ♠ thru Declarer sealed his fate. [ Declarer did not find the end play of throwing West in w/ a 3rd round of ♥ ] .

This would be another example of Richard Pavlicek's Competitive DBL: , “I want to compete further but I am not sure what to bid.” p - ( p ) - 1C - ( 1S ) X - ( 3S ) - X

In 3rd seat , maybe .

Yes, thx.... I corrected my post # 13 ... it is a Competitive DBL .

Thanks for finding this.... it is worth repeating... exactly what Zelandakh ( post # 12 ) suggested : ( 1C ) - 1D - ( p ) - 2C! = may be a limit raise, but may instead be looking for a different suit...

1♣-(pass)-1♦-(2♥) DBL Richard Pavlicek defines the above DBL as a Cooperative Competitive Double: “I want to compete further but I am not sure what to bid.” The example he gave was: 1♣ - ( pass ) - 1♦ - ( 1♠ ) DBL - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - EDIT: Good gawd ... I meant Competitive ( "Competitive after one of a suit" )... he was explaining Cooperative vs Competitive [ http://www.rpbridge.net/7g19.htm ] . Doubles [

Ken, Ken, Kennnnn ... ( Actually, I feel silly posting this ... maybe you posted tongue-in-cheek ). It is a definition ( One such reference below ): Negative Doubles " A negative double is similar to a takeout double, except that it is bid by the RESPONDER in a competitive auction. It shows that you would like to bid a suit, but that you have insufficient length or strength to do so." http://www.math.cornell.edu/~belk/negative.htm

There is NO Neg-DBL available in this auction. RESPONDER is the only one who can make a Neg-DBL. ( Admittedly, a T/O DBL has a "negative" connotation but should not be called a Neg-DBL ). 1♣-(pass)-1♦-(2♥) ?? Now the meaning of a DBL here ( by Opener ) needs prior agreement: 1) Penalty, 2) T/O, or 3) 3 card Support for ♦. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - If opener is a minimun 12 hcp, I would PASS and let Responder clarify.

Are you saying Responder has " 7 (hcp ) or so" ? Doesn't this illustrate the problem with up-the-line ? Whether you want to call it Walsh or not, 1♦ ( over 1♣ ) " should only be bid for a reason" : Namely, 1) GF w/4+♦, w/ or w/o a 4 card Major or 2) non-GF w/ 4+♦ and NO 4 card Major.

West ................. East A K x ................ Q x A K J 9 .............. Q x x x A K x ................ x x Q 9 x ................ A K 10 x x 2C ..........................3C ( 5+ cards w/2 of top 3 ) 4C ( Minorwood ) ..... 4S ( 2 - ♣Q ) 5H* (outside Q-ask)*.. 5S ( ♠ Q ) 5NT ( 2nd Q-ask ) .... 6H ( ♥ Q, denies ♦ Q ) 7NT ____________________________________________________________________ * 5D would have asked for cheapest bid K ..... 5H = ( by-passing K-ask ) asks for cheapest bid outside Q ............. 5NT reply would have been ♥Q, denying ♠Q ...................6D next would have been a 2nd Q-ask, if needed ............. 6C = no outside Q and Opener passes, hoping he can make 12 tricks. ............. 6D = ♦Q but no Major Q and Opener sign-off in 6NT ( he can count 12 tricks )

Really? Does 3C promise those 2 major Q's ??

I think it is obvious to Encourage on the opening lead... showing a K or Q . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Edit ( addition ): As far as the Smith ( Rev ) signal, I would "discourage", implying that I have something elsewhere ( in case partner needs to get to me to push a ♠ thru ) . He should figure out that it must be ♥ and not ♦. If I had the ♠ K and not the Q, I should make a ( Rev ) Smith "encouragement". - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - What Rev-Smith signal has the Opening leader( your partner ) made on the ♣?

Right now the only thing I can agree on is " desiring the ( green ) FELT to be in the middle " .

Here is another-- combining Ogust and Swedish-2NT : 2M - 2NT! ?? .. 3C! = bad hand, bad suit .. 3D! = good hand ( or good suit ), no shortness .. 3H! = good hand ( or good suit ), ♣-shortness .. 3S! = good hand ( or good suit ), ♦-shortness ..3NT! = good hand ( or good suit ), other-major shortness So for this hand: 2S - 2NT! 3H! - 4S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - On the other hand, if Opener had a doubleton-♦, slam may roll home ( discarding a ♥ on a long ♦ ). A K 9 x x x x x x x x x x

Before I looked at the spoiler, I thought 5NT was pick-a-slam, but I thought it was between ♥ and NT . It didn't dawn on me for ♦ to be one of the options. Advancer has a great hand, but the 3H bid shifted the focus for the trump suit. With good 4 card ♦ support, perhaps Advancer should cuebid 3S! to show that . Of course when you do that, then any ♥ bid is a cuebid ( at the 4-level ) and not showing a "suit" . Then too 4H! may be kickback for ♦ if you play that... which would work out great here if Overcaller used it. Darn preempts.

The first one I posted is a "different" problem. [ I should have mentioned that in the 2nd post ] . In the first post, the safety play is to just lead the K ( or Q ) of Diam... and you can finesse either way next ( since you have the entry to the board if needed ). In the second problem, Declarer overlooked needing the possible 2nd entry to dummy.

Here are the full hands for both: Dummy ♠ K Q 8 ♥ 9 5 4 ♦ J 7 6 ♣ A J 5 3 Declarer ♠ A ♥ A J 10 ♦ K Q 9 8 4 3 ♣ K Q 9 The ♥ K was led... taken w/A The ♠ A was cleared and Declarer went to the board w/♣ to discard his 2 losing ♥ on the ♠ K Q .... before touching trumps.... side-stepping the initial danger of a ♥ loser. But the secondary danger was either opponent holding A 10 x x in trumps . Now, a low ♦ was led to the K ( safety play ) ... which won ... BUT LHO showed OUT ! ! ! And now Declarer could NOT reach the board to take the marked finesse against RHO ... ... because, in his haste to discard the ♥ losers, he first went to the board with a low ♣ to the ACE ... duhhh [ A low ♣ to the J would have been "exercising care" for the trump safety play ( or ♣ K overtaken by the A ) ] .

2C!-cue ( by Advancer ) makes a lot of sense since at the 2-level you have all of this room "still looking for strain" ( ie. 2C! = good hand, either Diam raise or have a 4 card major or both support and a major ) . Overcaller's first priority then should be to bid his 4 card Major if he has one. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I think the same should be true for: ( 1D ) - 2C - ( p ) - 2D!

4NT ... asking for Aces ( even if you don't have a "specific Aces" system ). If partner shows at least ONE , bid 6D ( at least you don't have 2 quick losers ).

I think he is calling KenRex a "commie" .

East to blame for losing sight of the ♠ suit . If he had enough to bid 3C, he had enough to bid 2S instead.

I need to know what the hcp range is for South's 2NT-jump with his 14 hcp hand . EDIT: OK, I just clicked on the 3D "explanation" ... 14-15 hcp, etc. ...... North to blame with his flat 14 hcp. Why on earth would Responder cooperate for slam with his own 14 hcp, flat hand if he knows partner's hand isn't even worth a 3D-jump ?

You are in 6D. You haven't lost a trick yet. EDIT: Trumps have not been led yet. Your lead now from your hand: ♠ ---- ♥ x x ♦ J 7 6 ♣ A J 5 3 ♠ --- ♥ --- ♦ K Q 9 8 4 3 ♣ K Q 9

Many took this path .... and made 6S+1 Partner held: ♠ J T x x ♥ A x ♦ A J ♣ K T x x x Two Responders made a Neg-DBL ( probably not a wise choice ): One Opener passed ....for a near zero score ( 4DX-2 ). The other bid 4S ... 4NT by Responder ( not the best with a ♦-void ) but ended in 7S for a top.

3S! , then 4D if partner bids 3NT.....( just like gszes but the similarity ends here ) If you subscribe to Zelandakh's system for this type of bidding: 4D = very good suit, slammish. partner's replies: 4H! = "1st step" , negative the next steps for Responder are RKC-showing accepting ♦: 4S! = 0/3 4NT! = 1/4 5C! = 2 - ♦Q 5D! = 2 + ♦Q