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my point is that you should never jump to 6♠ over 4NT unless you expect it to be the right spot given my range of hands. And I'll always have ♦ tolerance to bid 4NT. Therefore we sometimes miss the 6-2♠ slam, but we'll end up in the ♦ slam which will always have a fit. I'm skeptical you think we can have perfectly accurate bidding in this auction.

i still think the range of hands I can have to bid 4NT will have 2♠ a huge majority of the time.

ok you win. i agree it says nothing about spades. i edited while you were responding.

wait. poutine? gravy and curds on fries? and the response was a resigned "unfortunately"? lol wtf is going on?

if you bid 5♠ with that, im happy bidding 6♦. if you bid 5♦, i pass. edit: if you bid 5♣, i bid 6♦ edit2: does my number of ♠ really matter? the number of options on this hand are so limited that i will either bid slam or not depending on if you cooperate. im happy saying 4NT is ambiguous and forward-going. the important thing is you have 5♣ to cuebid. with spades i think i'll likely bid an ambiguous 5♥. i admit this is completely esoteric, but what else can these bids mean?

ya i guess it doesnt preclude ♠. i could certainly pull whatever you bid back to X♠. i just think 4N is showing good something, as opposed to placing the contract which shows bad something. i dont think i can bid 4N with stiff x in ♠ and relative length in their suits, though. right? construct a hand where i have stiff ♠ and still a slam try. there arent many hands. i just dont know what target youre aiming at that has x<2<x spades. its almost nonexistent.

7♦ is too much against any opps

I feel this hand is worth slightly more than a 5.5♦ bid. The only reason I don't just bid 6♦ is I don't want to go minus. I don't think it's a king short of anything except a grand try, depending on which king it is.

man i got excited when i saw the title of this thread. unfortunately your dilemma is not within my area of expertise :) fwiw, and i expect it to be worth little or nothing, i would pass.

spec aces imo

I originally bid 4NT because I wanted partner to be able to bid 5♣. I admit it was a mistake not to include this in my explanation, but I'm glad you agree with my unstated thought process.

I think they just get on BBO to have a good time, and I suspect they don't much care about the results. I have no problem with this at all.

Ya. I guess I can live with 5♥ and try to go plus if they bid 5♠

with 3♠ i think it's crystal clear to bid 4 or more ♠. 4NT, in my mind, implies exactly 2. You may disagree with that, but that is what I meant by tolerance.

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agree with everything said so far

I'd try 4NT. No idea what it means, but it can't be natural. I hope it suggests diamonds with ♠ tolerance and better than 5♦ directly.

happy birthday!

I would have started with 1♠ and bid 2♦ over 1NT. I assume this isnt natural.

Don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but there were two votes for the insane assylum, which I intended as an option for commenting on my first bid. I believe he was sincere. I like 1♠ also. He can correct me and laugh at me if I'm wrong :unsure:

mmmm fried chicken and waffles

wat?

Gladys Knight owns a Fried Chicken and Waffles restaurant in Atlanta. Eating there is on my list of things to do before I die.

Make friends with people who alert their transfers and play set games against them.

You realize you have 0 tricks, right?