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Isn't it "Sir Ringo Starr"? ( Edit: He's not!) Maybe he and e.g. "Sir Thomas Sean Connery" could already participate in the House of Lords. Maybe some British expert can give us some insight to that.

But don't cry when the TD gives declarer the choice to forbid or to order ♣ leads from your partner for the rest of the game.

I want to play 4♥ with this, I don't want to hear that partner has ♠'s and what else do you think he'll bid, if at all because partner has hardly the strength to say something.

If south knows that double is penalty, than I change my vote from 75% south to 100% south. East promised 5 ♠ and west has to have 4+♠ to jump to 3♠. So opps have at least 9♠. East promised a 5 card minor and you hold card in the same minor, so you know that west and north are short in that suit. North honors in that suit are wrong sided or will be ruffed by west. East won't have more 3 cards in th other 2 suits. So North high card tricks won't get more than 1♥, 1 in wests minor, 1-2 in the other minor and perhaps 1-2♠. So if you are lucky 3♠ is down 1-2. And your hand is of no help. On the other hand you know that N/S must have 8-9 ♥'s and probably a fit in the other minor, because north will have 3-4♠, 5+♥, 0-2 of easts 5 card minor and 2+ of the other minor. So your side is closer to making 4♥ than bringing down 3♠.

The masters club just needs a little time. As soon as the number of tables gets high enough it will gain popularity.

I would like to bid 3NT, but how on earth is my partner going to get my ♠ tricks, if 2♠ is a weak 6 card ♠ suit. I don't think that opener will allow partner some sort of endplay.

In most of my pickup partnerships, a passed hand can hold up to 11(12 bad) HCP, and there is usually no agreement for this sequence, but I would expect partner to hold at least 14-15 HCP (limited but maximum). But I still don't think I should make a game try here.

Take a look at the Tolleson-Transfer Bids.

I think that the problem -as stated- is irrelevant. Any hesitation prior to that pass is suggesting to bid on. So if pass from partners hand would have been an LA, than he would have to take it. Trying to get extra information out of that fact is nitpicking beyond the bridge laws. Every time an UI situation occurs this problem exists, so it should have been expressed in the laws how to deal with it. It should be part of the std treatment.

This is all way to complicated for me. Trump KQ8 is much better than some 4 card supports i have had. So I simply bid 3♥. Can anybody point out what useful informations I could get from partner, over my 2♠ bid? I want him to bid 4♥ with extra values, which I know will be outside ♥.

With my regular partner, I have a systemic opening for any "strong" or distributional hand. Without that I open this as 5♦, I hope partner will have 2 tricks. Additionally I don't want opps to find their ♠? fit.

Right now, I can't log in, is there a general problem? Well I was in for a short while, but it took an eternity to get in, and I lost connection again. But half of the tourney was gone, so I guess it wasn't me.

No, but if I'm needing a swing, I might risk 3♠ instead of 2♠.

yikes they're after me. Maybe they'll X 2C now lol. 2C. I second that.

Thank you Ben for this important hint (see next post). In this case I'll go 1♥, because with only 11- HCP for LHO and partner, I won't here a reopening from partner and to often no bid from opps. And if I'm unlucky 1♣ is only down 3.

I won't follow the tend, to pick on players who have been mislead by opps MI and make a suboptimal move when put into a position, where a lot of their agreed bids no longer fit their shape or strength, because opps claim to hold a suit or specific strength they don't really have, Of cause victims could often do better than they did, but they are still victims.

I don't see much sense in prealerting a bid that comes up 20 times in 1500 boards. This is about once in 3 club nights or once in 7 ACBL BBO tourneys.

Obviously this was f2f, because there is an AC involved. So the first question we have is the UI case. North has 4 spades, but with only 5 HCP in red pass has no LA. Was there misinformation? Yes. Was there damage? Yes. Was the damage caused by the misinformation. If south is promising both majors, indeed X and 3♥ are no longer options for west, and the 2♠ bid has a different meaning. So west was bidding under pressure and made a bad bid, because 3♦ is not GF. But to lose their rights, they have to bid irrational, wild or gambling after the MI. NS get a warning (or an PP if they are experienced enough) to correctly use and disclose their system. I would grant EW a score correction, but to tiered to think about the correct score now.

Since this was f2f bridge without screens north got the UI that south misunderstood his bid. So he is not allowed to make any bid that is suggested by the UI and bidding ♠ is suggested strongly by the UI. So north is only allowed to bid ♠, if there is no logical alternative to it.

1) Was there MI? If south did not know what they played here, he should say "no agreement". But he decided to state that 2♥ showed both majors, this is MI if they can't back it up with a CC or system description. Now the CC stated that there is a specific runout convention over 1NT doubled. The runout convention itself is not explained. So the full prove that is required from the offending side is not there, so MI has to be ruled. Additionally north did not say, "I misbid" or "I psyched", but that "it was obvious". I think considering that MI is clear. 2) Should North have corrected south's explaination or was it obvious what happened ? a) If the explanation was correct, north had nothing to correct because he misbid or psyched. b ) If the explanation was wrong, north had to correct it. The obvious part is not so easy to answer. West bid pass- dbl- dbl. What was the first dbl? Support, negative, penalty? If it was negative than east know that west should have some cards in heart, spade and diamond. So east knows that together with his own 4 hearts, south explanation can't be right. I think he should have called the TD after playing the ♣A and seeing dummy, because north 4-5♥, his 4, 3 from dummy and some for partners hand add up to more than 13. I don't see how west could know that south explanation is wrong. But please keep in mind that, south said that north has ♥ and ♠ so I don't buy that west would have passed knowing it was transfer, and remember west dbled 2♠ too. 3) Did E/W do anything to hurt their case? East opened very light and if east is an experienced player, I will consider that he knew that this was misinformed, and decided not to call the TD because the table score might give a better result. He should have called the TD earlier. 4) I would give north a procedural penalty for not correcting the MI. 5) We need Misinformation, Damage and the Damage has to be a consequence of of the Misinformation. We have MI and we have damage. Both opps were told that north has ♥ and ♠ and that North has only few cards in the minors, so there are not many minor tricks for them. East knows that NS might not have a ♥ fit and suspects from partners first and 3rd dbl that the ♠ don't break well and opps might not even have a fit (south prefered ♥ over ♠). West knows that both majors don't break favorable for NS and that he might not get his ♦K and perhaps partners ♣ might not make many tricks too, because south should probably have a ♣ stopper for his 1NT bid. So I tend to think that the problem is that east has only 9 HCP and nothing in ♦ or the majors. So if the 2♠ bid was allowed, I would decide that the result stands. So the big question is: Was north allowed to run from 2♥X? If NS can prove that 1NT can never have a 5card major and that 1NT has to have 2 cards in each suit, than north can move from a dbled 6 card fit to a sure 7 card fit in ♠. Otherwise he has to pass. 6) The TD has to rule in favor of the non offending side, and suggest to the offending side to appeal. So the ruling is what he should rule and the appeal committee might change that ruling. Without the data about 5 card majors in NT bids, I don't know what the appeals committee should do.

great and what does a "loser" mean. There are several definitions. Please give me 15 minutes to pull out my dictionary before I bid. 1) Is this bid GCC or midchart legal? 2) Are the opp playing the same system if over a year one bids it 21 times and the other never? 3) Is there a full and complete explanation? 4) Are other laws in play? I think you are familiar with LTC? 1) I don't care, but that would be full disclosure. 2) As long as partners 3NT bid does not have a different meaning, i think it's legal. 3) Yes there is, i posted one. 4) No, LAWS are not involved just *regulations* from a SO.

After seeing the sample hands, i would say:

You hold 7♥'s and partner choose to dbl 1♣, so he should not have a ♥ void, so your side has a ♥ fit with 9-10 cards. It is also likely that we have a ♦ fit too. Opps will have a (double-) fit somewhere too, so the auction does not suggest that opps have a misfit. Partner may hold something like 3352, 4450 or maybe 4252. Any ♥ trick he may expect won't happen, and opps hold more ♠'s that he might expect. Opps are very likely very unbalanced so there is a big risk, they can make 4♠. So I'll bid 5♥ in the given situation.

Well there seems to be one reasonable bid in this auction: 1♠. Every other bid is .... substandard. Well what is dbl: shape, major(s) or strength? Well the shape is wrong, the strength is borderline and it's not the other major. 3♥ is a fine bid, if dbl is promising a 4+ hears. Shortage in ♣, ♠QT97 behind the ♠auction and 8 HCP should be equivalent to the 9-11 agreement. But what if the X does not promise 4 heats? Well than 1 NT is the bid of choice. 5♥ is *beeeeep* and *BEEEEEP*. Where is the 4th ♥, partner promised a point range not extra length. Did you know that is illegal, that both player of a partnership use a different bidding systems? And as we see here, it won't be successful.

I would not waste much thought on this result. Sometimes preempts work. There is just not enogh bidding space left for your side. Your only chance, would have been if 5♣ would be Exclusion Keycard Blackwood. Otherwise, there is no way to find, that 2 trump suit honors ♥ are missing.