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From xxx I lead my lowest. Holding Jx partner lead A from AK. I would encourage with the x, roughing the 3rd round.
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1. No - Close 2. Yes - Strongest of the 3 3. Yes - Easy rebid
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Partner send this on resolving ambiguity, I do not know the original author. This mostly kept us on the same page. When two adjacent suits are being bid, and a trump suit has not yet been agreed, ambiguity may exist as to whether four of the higher-ranking suit is kickback. PARAMOUNT RULE: When trump can be set to remove ambiguity, set it. This will almost always be the case. You will almost always be able to set one of the two suits as trump below the four level. When you can do that, and don't, then assume that the intent is that the other suit is trump. 1h 2c 2d ? If you want diamonds to be trump, bid 3d. If you want hearts to be trump, bid 2h or 3h. Don't leap to to show a weak hand wanting to play in hearts. First, it's bad bridge, because opener's hand is unlimited. Second, it's an ambiguous bid (kickback for diamonds?). There is no need for the ambiguity. 1s 2c 2h 4s Why put pressure on partner? Bid 3h or 3s. 1s 2d 2s 4s <--- no ambiguity, so ok to jump. Responder can bid kickback for their suit on their next bid: 1s 2h 2s 4s <--- kickback for hearts. Bid 3s to resolve ambiguity. 1d 4h <--- not kickback, because we can set diamonds as trump with a forcing bid (inverted minor or some other bid, depending on system), then bid kickback. 1h 4s <--- not kickback. We can make a forcing bid to set hearts as trump (Jacoby 2nt, splinter bid, 2/1 then support hearts). 1h 2c 2d 4d <--- kickback for clubs. 3d would set diamonds as trump. Note this auction: 1h 2d 3d 3h <--- 3h sets hearts as trump. Any other bid, and diamonds is permanently set as trump. 1h 2d 3d 4h <--- kickback for diamonds. Diamonds is agreed, 3h was not bid to reset trump to hearts. 1d 1s 2nt 3c <--- New Minor Forcing 3h 4s <--- kickback. No way to set hearts as trump below 4h. If you want spades to be trump, make life easy by for partner by bidding 3s. Not doing so makes it clear that you want 4s to be kickback. 1d 1h 4h <-------- this is a common auction. Use judgment and don't assume it's kickback for diamonds. Two Strikes And You're Out Rule: If a player has had two opportunities to support a suit and has not done so, then their subsequent bid is not kickback. 1h 1s 2h 3d 4d 4h <--- kickback for diamonds. Diamonds is the agreed trump suit. Plus, responder didn't support hearts earlier, although responder had two chances to do so. Resolve it in the favor of kickback. (actual hand from club play) 1s 2h 3d 3h 4d 4h 4s <-------- Not kickback for hearts. Opener had two chances to support hearts and didn't, instead choosing to rebid their minor. Too late now! (actual hand from club play) When opener rebids two of their suit, and responder wants to force game and show six of their suit, they must bid a new suit and then rebid their first suit. This shows a six-card suit and a game force. 1d 1h 2d 3h <--- invitational. Can be passed. 1d 1h 2d 2s 2nt 3h <--- game force, 6+ hearts 1d 2h 2d 4h <--- kickback for diamonds When opener jump rebids their suit, any bid other than pass by responder is a game force. 1d 1h 3d 3h <--- game force. Bid 4h next bid if you want to play there. 1d 1h 3d 4h <--- kickback for diamonds Use the fourth suit forcing convention to make it clear that you want your suit to be trump. Since FSF is forcing to game, opener should not make a jump to show game-going strength. Preserve the bidding space. 1d 1h 2c 2s! 2nt 3d <--- sets diamonds as trump, shows slam interest 1d 1h 2c 4d <--- kickback for clubs Following is a library of auctions where kickback ambiguities arose. This section will be added to as new auctions are encountered. 1h 2d 2h 3d 4h <-------- kickback for diamonds. No opportunity to set diamonds as trump below the four level, so the general rule is that 4h is kickback. Plus, opener could have bid 3h to remove all ambiguity about what 4h would mean. (actual hand from club play)
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I like precision don't play it much (no serious precision partner) 1♣ = 17+ or 15/16 balanced 1♦ = 12/16 4+♦ 1♥♠ = 10/16 5+ 1NT = 12/14 2♣ = 11/16 5+ 2♦ = 11/15 mini roman etc Transfer responses / 1♣ 2/1 style over ♥♠ Anyone wanting to play this let me know.
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Thankyou to all who replied. I was the 5♦ bidder. Perhaps, the above quote from the HOG captures my reasoning best. But, I think partner's hand is more likely to be: xxx x Axxx AQJxx The opponents bidding does not suggest a 11 card ♠ fit to me. If partner had passed 2♠XX I would not take it as suggestive of penalty. In fact, prior to the replies that idea would not have occurred to me!. I'm willing to give up on that, it justs seems to extreme in an IMP match A couple of replies suggested bidding 3♣ instead of making the responsive X. I think this not best, mainly because you are giving up the possible ♥ fit xxx AQx x AQJxxx 4♥ will have a decent shot. Given the VUL I think this holding more likely than a ♦ fit! Final thoughts, I didn't make the worse call. I just had the wrong partner. Hey Fluffy and Hog need a partner? ;)
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You may be reading too much into that. No admission was intended ;)
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How on earth can it be 5/2, South did not need to bid anything over the XX.
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Partner was not too happy with my bidding here!. I wasn't too happy with his! Ofcourse 5♠ rolls the scoring was IMPS. Maybe we're both a bit to blame, I look forward to the responses. Tx folks. [hv=pc=n&s=s976had532ckq9632&n=shjt872dkqt96ct74&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=p1s2c2sdr3d3s5d5sdppp]266|200[/hv]
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Seems right on to me. But, what if they don't lead a ♠ at the other table? Left to play the suit yourself there is no option but to play for the Ace onside. So pop with the King at trick 1
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[hv=pc=n&s=skt5h6d8632cqt876&w=s6hkj2daqt754ck95&n=saqj932haqt5d9ca2&e=s874h98743dkjcj43&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=p1d1s2h2s3h4sppp]399|300[/hv] I sat SOUTH in a recent ACBL online game, when this deal came up. After the play of the hand I informed the director that I found the East/West bidding quite surprising NO ALERTS. I suggested perhaps they had both psyched!. It seems to me East has nowhere near the values for his bid. West, on the other hand has, IMO, made a gross underbid of 3♥(I would be making a slam try). The director was quick to inform me that there is no law against bad bidding....end of story. I'm quite certain the ACBL has, infact, no laws against bad bidding, but they do have laws requiring players to ALERT Negative Free Bids!, if that was infact what was going on here. I really don't know what East/West were doing, but I think the director was dead wrong. Surely, East/West should be informed their bids are, at best, highly unusual! and may be viewed by some as suggestive of a private agreement or worse! Now to my question, What should a director have done?
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Yes it was indeed within the ACBL. Does the WBF handle this differently?
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[hv=d=n&v=b&b=13&a=1c2cp2hppdppp]133|100[/hv]. 1♣ Alerted as Precision 17+, South's Pass alerted as 0/8 or trap After making my lead I called the director because East's hand was 6♠ 5♥ 2♦ 0♣ a michaels bid. The director quickly informed me that 2♣ is a standand call requiring no alert, and to continue play. Had the call beeen alerted the bidding would have been very different. Unconvinced, a day later I posed this question to the local directors all of whom agreed with the ruling. Saying that cuebids are not alertable. It is not at all clear to me that this ruling and the opinion of my local directors is correct. The ACBL offers this definition. Cuebid: A bid in a suit which an opponent has either bid naturally or in which he has shown four or more cards. My 1♣ opening bid is not natural and does not show 4 or more cards in ♣, seeminly, a cuebid of an artificial opening cannot be made. It appears to me the director has ruled incorrectly and I would appreciate if someone can provide a proper explaination.
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1. Yes 2. 2♥ 3. 3♥
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If you cannot get to dummy to lead a ♦ toward the KQ then you will loose at least 2 ♦ trick unless the JT are dub.
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I think this is exactly the point. Not most ALL! if you agree to open all 11 HCP and at least most 10 HCP with a 5C Major and play 2/1 style. Then how strong must a 2/1 GF bid be! Partner says add a point so 13 becomes a GF something like [hv=s=sxxhqxxdakxxxckjx]133|100|[/hv]. Would anyone play this as GF opposite 1♠ when P can have 10 or 11 points?
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[hv=n=sxxxht6d9xxckjxxx&s=sxhakj982dkq87xca]133|200|N E S W - 1♠2♠ 3♠ p p 4♥ AP[/hv] West led a low ♠ to the King, East continued with the Ace. 3 lines come to mind. 1. Ruff, bang down A&K of trumps if the Queen falls then play to loose no more than 2 ♦ tricks. 2. Ruff, play the ♥J trying to create and entry to dummy in order to limit ♦ loosers to 1. 3. Ruff high(8), play ♥2 toward dummy and insert the 6 if the Q does not appear, again attempting to get to dummy! Can anyone provide some math on the chances of success and additionally, if playing line 1 and the ♥Q falls doubleton then how should ♦ be played for 2 loosers.
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Cannot make that assumption at least not in my case!. We are using 12/14 NT, so if balanced our Major opening will be 10/11. With a balaanced 15/17 we open 1C and rebid NT to show this range. This means our 1M will be 10/11 if 5332 or 10/16 if unbalanced.
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Playing precision club (1♣ = 15/17 balanced or 17+) with 2/1, How many of these hands would you open 1M in 1st or 2nd seat? [hv=s=sajxxxhkjxxdqxxcx]133|100|[/hv] [hv=s=sajxxxhkjxxdqxxcx]133|100|[/hv] [hv=s=sajxxxhkjxxdqxxcx]133|100|[/hv] [hv=s=sajxxxhkjxxdqxxcx]133|100|[/hv] [hv=s=sajxxxhkjxxdqxxcx]133|100|[/hv] If you call 1M on 3 or more then I have another question for you. Now, over 1S you hold an average 12 count with no immediate fit, (Qx KQx Kxxxx Qx)(xx AKxx Jxx KJxx) Will you make a GF 2/1 or do you require 13 or 14? I really want to know because my partner argues all the above should be opened regardless of vul and any good 12 and all 13+ point responding hands can insist on game. I'm not convinced but trying to keep an open mind! Tx to all who reply.
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Another ridiculous ruling
jmcw replied to wank's topic in General Bridge Discussion (not BBO-specific)
You will never know what happened with declarer's mouse/pad. The point is that undo is allowed and was correctly granted. Your problem is that you are trying to get a trick which you are not entitled to. Trying to win at any cost no matter how undeserving makes me sick. Playing the game as a Gentleman or Lady is far more important that whining over a trick you clearly did not deserve to win. -
Disciplined means the ability to follow agreements and apply knowledge in a pattern consistant with agreements made between partners.
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Would like a regular partner for online play 3 or 4 times per week. My availability is flexible. My perfect partner would be a discipline bidder playing a full 2/1 system, near expert and a willingness to get better. Drop an email if interested. JOHN thistletech@rogers.com
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If 4N is quantatative then its too rich for my blood. If you cam make a minor suit enquiry and still get out at 4NT then thats the route I'd take. I have a 3♠ call available to show this hand type but admittedly some good fortune may still be required
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Reading through the replies it seems that the Director should have 1. Established East's intent (2♣) It was intended as STAYMAN 2. Enquired if E/W had a agreements for a STAYMAN call over 2♦ and if they did allow that bid to be substituted without penalty 3. If E/W had no such agreement allow East to PASS OR make the bid sufficient, effectively barring WEST for the remainder of the auction. That clears it up for me. The director needs some guidance. And the "newish" players need to get proper rulings (for and against), so they won't be encouraged to try using insufficient bids to clarify their holdings. That is not an accusation. BUT a good point, I would be more concerned about non "newish" players benefitting from insufficient bids.
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The "offending" side are not experienced and had no agreement or discussion regarding interference. The director made no attempt to establish whether or not the partnership had such an agreement (presumably because they are newish). At the table the Advancer (3♥) said "well it has to be STAYMAN because my partner can't bid 2♣". However, I remain convinced that the illegal 2♣ made it absolutely clear what his partner's intent was.
