rogerclee

I will bid 4♦, since this is the only way we will ever get to a diamond slam, which I think is likely on. I think playing 4♦ NF is awful. We have deprived ourselves of a lot of room to show this hand type with "GF values", but now we want to try to accommodate hands where 3N doesn't make and 4m is the limit when we have around 26 HCP? Even if this is true, how would we determine it with sufficient accuracy?

Balanced two-count. Lose 2 is not the worst thing that can happen. Every once in awhile, my opponents do not make the contracts they bid.

2♠, will bid 3NT over 3♥.

Pass. I don't act on minimumish hands anymore in this position. Yes, they could go down huge, and yes, we could be getting stolen from, but that is why RHO bid 4♠.

I think I would accept either. It is too likely that we get a favorable lead and have the time to set up clubs.

1) 2♣. I would not fault 4♣ favorable at MPs, but I think 3♣ is sort of silly. If I'm trying to keep the auction constructive, partner will never play me for a hand this good. If I'm trying to make them guess, 4♣ seems more suitable at these colors. 2) 4♥. If partner has ♥Hxx, I can absorb two taps to draw trumps if they are 3-2 and claim on the clubs. 3) 3NT.

I reckon it should be cooperative. I think pure penalty with a limited hand in front of the bidder is not useful enough in frequency.

1130 tends to imply no :rolleyes:.

Double. I'm greedy.

How can they make game with 20 HCP!!!111!!!

The only reason pass is even on the map is because we cannot really stand to defend 3♥x. That said, pessimistic bridge is usually bad bridge. Double is completely obvious.

1) 5♦ is likely to buy the pot, so I'll do that. Anyway, I am not sacrificing over 5♥. 2) 4♣. This may buy it, or this may cause them to judge incorrectly. The chances of this getting penalized are not large. 3) 2♥. 3♥ is just too risky. If they own spades, I'm not gaining on a huge number of hands. If they don't have a fit, 3♥ is going down a million over nothing.

Are you implying that this is a problem if you're not? :)

I have a trick source? I can rebid 3♣ over 2NT, jamming them out of a 10-card spade fit?

Clear 1NT. This is right on values, and I do NOT want partner raising on 3.

You don't play it as penalty of hearts? Is 2♥ forcing? I might get a better read if I pass, but 3♣ looks normal enough. 3N is a bit much but might work. I know Marshall Miles advocates having a penalty double when they step out of line like this, but the reason I play it takeout is basically that...agree with jdonn :rolleyes:.

1♣ unanimous.

I would bid 3♣.

3♣. I play x here is takeout of diamonds. NT is so bad.

I don't understand what is weird about this. 3♣.

I play pretty much exclusively in California tournaments and have never heard of this point. In fact, I think "4♠+1" is silly, and have always written "4♠+5" :). This has never come up in the nationals I have been to though.

So Roger how do you suggest we get to 5D on the last board. I doubt you are recommending a 4D overcall with that suit, are you? Perhaps you are recommending a X. Pray tell me what we then do over a 4S bid? Personally I think 3C is a youth players bid on board 1. You grow out of it on suits that bad with outside defensive tricks. Josh is right, show me the hands! Oh, this was from a live game a few nights ago, and I've lost the hand records. I will say what I can remember. 1) Partner has ♠AT8x ♥J9xxx ♦Qx ♣AJ, and he will double 3♠, which is cold for 4, since RHO is 5062 and diamonds 2-2. 2) Partner has ♠AQJx ♥Q ♦xx ♣AKQJxx. 3) Partner has some sort of 4261 hand which is not good enough to open and had too much playing strength in spades to preempt. This was an opponent's decision, I didn't get a good look at the hand. I just thought our result was amusing. I agree that hands 1 and 3 may not be very instructive. Sorry.

3♣

Pass.

1) 3♣ works way better. 2♣ will get partner to double them off with his 12-count when your hand is worth literally zero defensive tricks. 2) 4♣ is best; it is cold, with 3♠ down 1 or 2 depending on the play. 3) Pass doesn't work out so well; you guys are cold for 5♦. You also lose to everyone else in 3NT when RHO's 4♣ bid is a little untraditional. 4♣ goes down 5.