virgosrock

i thought 3H denied d control for 3NT. Should I bid 4C? [hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=pn%7Cshaharz%2CVirgosRock%2CRobotN%2CRobotE%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C2S478QH2459D29KC2Q%2CS56JKH3KAD68C459J%2CS239TH8TD45TQAC37%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard 4%7Csv%7Cb%7Cmb%7C1C%7Can%7CMinor suit opening -- 3%2B %21C%3B 11-21 HCP%3B %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1H%7Can%7COne over one -- 4%2B %21H%3B 6%2B total points %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7C3%2B %21C%3B 3- %21H%3B 4%2B %21S%3B 11%2B HCP%3B 12-18 tota%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2D%21%7Can%7CFourth suit forcing -- 4%2B %21H%3B 13%2B total points %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2H%7Can%7C3%2B %21C%3B 3 %21H%3B 4%2B %21S%3B 11-14 HCP%3B 12%2B total%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3C%7Can%7C4%2B %21C%3B 4%2B %21H%3B 13%2B total points %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3H%7Can%7C3%2B %21C%3B 3 %21H%3B 4%2B %21S%3B 11-14 HCP%3B 12%2B total%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3N%7Can%7C4%2B %21C%3B 4-5 %21H%3B 4- %21S%3B 14-21 HCP%3B likely stop in %21D %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpg%7C%7C%0A%0A]399|300[/hv]

Same old hackneyed <yawn> principle. Upgrade hand substantially when length in opponent(s) suit. Furthe upgrade when a void. [hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=pn%7CVirgosRock%2Cfsa313%2CRobotN%2CRobotE%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C4S789H4579D6TKC37K%2CSH38JD489AC4689TJ%2CS236TAHQKAD2357QC%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard 10%7Csv%7Cb%7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7CMajor suit opening -- 5%2B %21S%3B 11-21 HCP%3B 12-22 total points %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cd%7Can%7C3%2B %21C%3B 3%2B %21D%3B 3%2B %21H%3B 9%2B HCP %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2H%7Can%7C4%2B %21H%3B 13- total points%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2S%7Can%7C2-4 %21C%3B 2-4 %21D%3B 2-4 %21H%3B 2-4 %21S%3B 18%2B total points%3B at best stop in %21S%3B forcing to 3S %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3H%7Can%7C4%2B %21H%3B 8- total points%3B forcing%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4H%7Can%7C2-4 %21C%3B 2-4 %21D%3B 4 %21H%3B 2-4 %21S%3B 24%2B HCP%3B 25-30 total points%3B at best stop in %21S %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpg%7C%7Cmc%7C5%7C%0A%0A]399|300[/hv]

weak with 5+ d. sometimes takes an aggressive action after bidding 3D.

i wonder if 1NT fcg is the most frequent response to 1S, one should always bid 1C? what do the simulators say?

agree about 2D. I think though that 3D is right. GUBBO would bid 3D as well though does not prove much.

ok ok. I agree 3Hx is terrible by me. What the heck is double by Brother GUB? Where are the blurb's 16 HCP ? Must be the length in opp's suit. Add 5-6 HCP if length. Since I have ZERO faith in Brother GUB's doubles I pulled fortunately. [hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=pn%7CVirgosRock%2Cconomor%2CRobotN%2CRobotE%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C4S36TH3TQD2378C356%2CS789KH25D56JC49TK%2CS245JQH789JKDAC7J%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard 6%7Csv%7Ce%7Cmb%7C1D%7Can%7CMinor suit opening -- 3%2B %21D%3B 11-21 HCP%3B 12-22 total points %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7COne over one -- 4%2B %21S%3B 6%2B total points%7Cmb%7C2H%7Can%7CTwo-level overcall -- 5%2B %21H%3B 10%2B HCP%3B 18- total points %7Cmb%7C3H%7Can%7C3%2B %21D%3B 21- HCP%3B 20-22 total points %7Cmb%7Cd%7Can%7C3%2B %21H%3B 7-16 total points%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4C%7Can%7C4%2B %21C%3B 4%2B %21D%3B 21- HCP%3B 3-card %21D%3B 20-22 total points %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cd%7Can%7C5%2B %21H%3B 16%2B HCP%3B biddable %21C%3B 18- total points %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4H%7Can%7C3%2B %21H%3B 8%2B HCP%3B 9-14 total points%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cd%7Can%7C4%2B %21C%3B 4%2B %21D%3B 21- HCP%3B 3-card %21D%3B 20-22 total points %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpg%7C%7C%0A%0A]399|300[/hv]

From a bidding table perspective if nothing fits SJS then just bid 2C GF. No?

yes, 3NT was bad by me. was enchanted by my 6th diamond. I think invm is with 4D so could have bid 2D. I should bid 3D over 2NT.

Initially I cast blame on GUBBO for not bidding 2D. Upon further thought it is my fault. I should bid 3D. No clue what would have happened later but 3D is right. Plus I should take a leaf out of robot's book. Many time in situations like 1m-2N the bot bids 3C especially with 11-12 hcp and has 5 of them. Always wondered why. Now I know. [hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=pn%7CVirgosRock%2Choopsw%2CRobotN%2CRobotE%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C1S49H69KAD3479JKC6%2CS6KAH3578TD8TQC5K%2CS28THJQD256AC48JA%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard 11%7Csv%7Co%7Cmb%7C1D%7Can%7CMinor suit opening -- 3%2B %21D%3B 11-21 HCP%3B %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2N%7Can%7CBalanced invite -- 2-5 %21C%3B 2-5 %21D%3B 2-3 %21H%3B 2-3 %21S%3B 11-12 HCP%3B partial stop in %21C%3B partial stop in %21H%3B partial stop in %21S %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3N%7Can%7C3%2B %21D%3B 5- %21H%3B 5- %21S%3B 14-21 HCP%3B 22- tota%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpg%7C%7C%0A%0A]399|300[/hv]

I have seen similar conflicting typos many times. well bid. though lucky since opening 1c instead 1s with 5-5 is generally fraught with peril. I am surprised GUBBO did not bid 6D. Generally length in opponents suit, stiff, invokes the sunniest side of GUBBO.

pls educate me about TP. We used to have "points" when a fit found. and we have HCP. During my ten year absence TP seemed to have been introduced. thanks.

I tried going the Michaels route with 5-4 a few times. Was a disaster. e.g. with if I have 5S and 4H GUBBO would choose hearts with 4S and 3H or something like that. Looks like the consensus of replies is that 2H here should NOT be 13-16.

A look-ahead system is currently beyond GUBBO. But 3C then 4C is quite ridiculous.

3H would be splinter with support in S in GUBBO system.

west has a wide range. passing doesn't seem right. and time and again i find suits are opened with 3 honors missing thus 1nt is ok. plus might be barely short of doubling and then bidding spades.

west should bid 3S not 3d which shows 6S. Now GUBBO might bid 7S or heavens might RKC. If massive balanced then make a move towards 6/7 NT not a ridiculous 4C. Soloway not to blame by any means.

i think i should bid 2H over 1NT. Stopped when I saw 13-16 since GUBBO with 10 HCP would take a sunny view and bid 4H. Or am I basing my comments on result? [hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=pn%7Cmiliko%2CVirgosRock%2CRobotN%2CRobotE%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C1SJH57TD38TKAC47TQ%2CS234TKH69KAD57C38%2CS6789AH48D24QC26A%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard 15%7Csv%7Cn%7Cmb%7C1D%7Can%7CMinor suit opening -- 3%2B %21D%3B 11-21 HCP%3B 12-22 total points%7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7COne-level overcall -- 5%2B %21S%3B 8-17 HCP%3B 9%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1N%7Can%7C2- %21S%3B 9-11 HCP %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpg%7C%7C%0A%0A]399|300[/hv]

this was moneybridge therefore assume IMPS. at MPs I have no issue. Generally GUBBO has a stiff and/or length in opps' suit. This time 2 doubletons. I'd say bad overcall at moneybridge.

which is why skip the jump shift and just bid 2c gf?

Firstly Cascade I apologize if I offended you. Was trying to be funny. The point was to illustrate the importance of RKC vs. Insane jumps. smerriman has also clarified in a later post.

you decide. my second post on this topic. [hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=pn%7CVirgosRock%2Csusnv%2CRobotN%2CRobotE%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C1S7QH35TKD238C4578%2CS239TKAH8D679TQCQ%2CS458H269JQD4JC69T%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard 3%7Csv%7Ce%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7CMajor suit opening -- 5%2B %21S%3B 11-21 HCP%3B %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3C%21%7Can%7CSoloway jump shift -- rebiddable %21C%3B 17%2B total points %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3D%7Can%7C5%2B %21S%3B 11-21 HCP%3B %21DKQ%3B 12-22 total poin%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4C%7Can%7CSolid C%3B maximum -- 2- %21S%3B solid 6-card %21C%3B %21CAKQ%2Cno %21C%3B 17%2B total points %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4S%7Can%7C11-21 HCP%3B twice rebiddable %21S%3B %21DKQ%3B 12%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4N%7Can%7CBlackwood %28C%29 -- 2- %21S%3B solid 6-card %21C%3B %21CAKQ%2Cno %21C%3B 20%2B total points %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C5D%7Can%7COne or four key cards -- 11-21 HCP%3B twic%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C5H%7Can%7C%3F queen -- 2- %21S%3B solid 6-card %21C%3B %21CAKQ%2Cno %21C%3B 20%2B total points %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C5S%7Can%7CQueen and king -- 11-21 HCP%3B twice rebid%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C6C%7Can%7CSignoff -- 2- %21S%3B solid 6-card %21C%3B %21CAKQ%2Cno %21C%3B 20%2B total points %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpg%7C%7C%0A%0A]399|300[/hv]

i kinda know members of this forum are quite lax and relaxed about overcalls but what do you think of this 2C? Knowing GUBBO i bet the length in diamonds spurred it to bid 2C. Maybe just sour grapes for me since it went for a number..... [hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=pn%7Cstiffqueen%2CVirgosRock%2CRobotN%2CRobotE%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C2S278JH4TQD3QKAC48%2CS469KH268KD29TC6Q%2CS5TAH35JAD47C39TJ%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard 4%7Csv%7Cb%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1D%7Can%7CMinor suit opening -- 3%2B %21D%3B 11-21 HCP%3B %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1H%7Can%7COne over one -- 4%2B %21H%3B 11- HCP%3B 6-12 total points %7Cmb%7C2C%7Can%7CTwo-level overcall -- 5%2B %21C%3B 10-11 HCP%3B 12- total points %7Cmb%7Cd%21%7Can%7CSupport double - 3 H -- 4%2B %21D%3B 3 %21H%3B 11-%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpg%7C%7C%0A%0A]399|300[/hv]

if you cuebid trust cuebids [hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=pn%7CVirgosRock%2Chelge egil%2CRobotN%2CRobotE%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C2S3589TAH49DAC4579%2CS27H35TKAD2679C6K%2CS46JKH2QD4QKC2JQA%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard 8%7Csv%7Co%7Cmb%7C1H%7Can%7CMajor suit opening -- 5%2B %21H%3B 11-21 HCP%3B 12-22 total points%7Cmb%7Cd%7Can%7CTakeout double -- 3-5 %21C%3B 3-5 %21D%3B 2- %21H%3B 3-4 %21S%3B 12%2B total points %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4S%7Can%7C5%2B %21S%3B 14%2B total points%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C5C%7Can%7CCue bid -- 3-5 %21C%3B 3-5 %21D%3B 2- %21H%3B 3-4 %21S%3B %21CA%3B 17%2B total points%3B forcing %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C5D%7Can%7CCue bid -- 5%2B %21S%3B %21DA%3B 14%2B total points%3B%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C6S%7Can%7C3-5 %21C%3B 3-5 %21D%3B 2- %21H%3B 3-4 %21S%3B %21CA%3B 18%2B total points %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpg%7C%7Cmc%7C11%7C%0A%0A]399|300[/hv]

Oh! Cascade. Thou knowest not what thee speaketh or something like that. It is an approximate world we live in but we hafta use the tools to make it more predictable. and johnu thanks once again for standing up for the downtrodden!

Other than the hand I just mentioned and other similar hands where it led the middle card GUBBO has mostly led well. Especially in cases where it manages to find your stiff on opening lead to give you a ruff. The other bad case is where it does not lead back your suit at 3 NT. I believe this has been looked into and is in the list of potential bug fixes.