TWO4BRIDGE
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I like your improvements...( the 4 vs 5+ card ♣ support ) . If 3C* = "may be artificial", I too use 3D! as an "asking" relay ( only if interest in ♣ and no interest in the Major). 1M - 1NTF! 3C* - 3D! ?? ..3M! = long M suit; ♣ was artificial ..3oM = ♣ suit is real If Opener's ♣ suit is real, your 4C = 4 cards or 4D! and higher "shows" key cards w/ 5+ card ♣ support.
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We get yet another SJS post ( see my first signature post below ) . I'd be in the ♣ slam too. Upon seeing dummy, I'm not sure if I can play it as well as Gibson. My auction would be a little different than Zel's ( I have Responder "show" rather than " be asked " w / ♣ support and no interest in ♠ : 1S - 1NTF! 3C - ?? ......... The following 4 bids show ♠ support or not ... and NO interest in ♣: ......... 3D ......... 3H ......... 3S ......... 3NT ......... 4S ......... The next 4 bids would "show" RKC for ♣ w/ 4+support : ......... 4C! = 0 ......... 4D! = 1 ......... 4H! = 2 - ♣ Q .........4NT! = 2 + ♣ Q 6C ( after 1 key card is "shown" )
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Since the K was led, partner should have shown Count on that 1st lead. Next is the time to show Suit Preference .
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Upon Declarer's lead of the ♣J , the outstanding ♣ were 10 7 4 and partner played the 7 . ( Why? ) If it is showing Count -- a doubleton here -- how are we going to set if partner does not have the ♠J or the ♥K ? Maybe gnasher's eventual lead of the 2nd ♣ might work ( after ♠Q and NO suit preference for ♥ . .....If Declarer had a 2nd ♣, he will win and have to lead a 3rd hoping to set up 2 needed discards for ♥. ..... If partner's singleton ♦ is the EIGHT, his ruff will effect an uppercut.... giving you the 4th trick: one trick in each suit.
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TWO4BRIDGE replied to twcho's topic in General Bridge Discussion (not BBO-specific)
ditto to Aquaman.... Classic exposing of the psyche: 1H - X - 1S - ?? .................... X = 4 cards ♠ ....................2S = 5+ cards ♠ -
6413 = 14 ( I never open with that shape either ).
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Good point. I had not thought about it before. 1D - 1H 2S! - 3H = good 6 or 7 card ♥ suit; denies interest in ♠ or ♦ .
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What do you play over 2NT! ( ask ) by Responder ? 2D! - 2NT! ("ask" ) .. 3C! = Max weak-2 in a major; 3D!= relay, bid the major you don't have . .. 3D! = Min weak-2 in ♥ ( transfer ) .. 3H! = Min weak-2 in ♠ ( transfer ) .. 3S! = A K Q .. solid ♥ ..3NT! = A K Q .. solid ♠ The question is whether Responder is strong enough to "ask" and then go to game if a Max in ♠. However, with a max in ♥, I think I would rather not be in game. But the above structure won't allow a sign-off in 3H when Opener shows a max in ♥ ( with a 3S! bid ) .
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We haven't seen it in awhile, but this is another hand for a "GGG" = Gnasher's Gameforce Gadget ( eventho he doesn't take credit for its origin. ) .... 2S!-jump over a 1H Response to show a variety of GF hands: 1D - 1H 2S! - 2NT! = ask for clarification ?? .. 3C! = ( other minor ) 2S was real = 4 cards ♠, GF .. 3D! = long ♦ suit; NO 4 cards ♠ , GF .. 3H! = 3 cards ♥, 5+♦, NO 4 cards ♠ , GF After: 3D! - 3H = extra length 3NT - ?? I bet Responder would pass instead of bidding 4D Soooo, not a good result either... since you said 3NT goes down. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Edit: Auction still ends up in NT even with interference: 1D - ( p ) - 1H 2S! -( 3C ) - 3H 3NT
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2♦is an underbid not knowing what kind of T/O DBL partner made ?? Jumping to the grand ?? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I might reach 6C starting with Michaels : ( 1S ) - ...... 2S! ( Hts/minor ) - 2NT! ( asking for minor ) 3H ( forcing, showing a strong 2-suiter ) - 4NT! ( 5/5 in the minors ) 6C
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I think 4♦ would be a Ctrl cue and deny a ♣-Ctrl . The ♣ Ace as the missing key card could easily result in down 1 . What would 3NT mean after 3♠ ? If it means commence with cuebids, then a 4C cue by Opener would allow you to proceed with confidence.
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I've seen the 3C! = splinter before by posters a few years ago . You have to admit it is priceless on this hand ..... specifically descriptive yet staying BELOW 3NT !
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I don't know where you got your info, but 5-of-trump NEVER asks for 7 . Here ( wrongly bid ), it asks for 6H w/2 of the top 3 trump honors .... otherwise pass 5H. [ BTW, I agree with your 3S Ctrl cue ] .
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Using Zelandakh's Splinter Structure from a relatively recent thread: http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/50210-splinter-jacoby-2nt-or-what/page__p__599917#entry599917 South North 1H - 2S! jump 2NT!(asks) - 3H! ( mini-splinter w/♠ shortage; no void ) [ You have to admit this is a better use for the 3H bid by North ] 3S ( ♠-Ctrl, obviously the Ace ) - 4C ( Ctrl cue ) 4S! ( kickback-RKC for ♥ ) - 5C ( 2nd step = 1 / 4 ) 5D ( next step = ♥Q-ask ) - 6C ( ♥Q + ♣K ) 6H The only concern is that North's 4C cue showed the ♣-King and the lone key card was the ♥-Ace ( Club lead thru North ). [ Side Issue : How did you go down 1 in 5H ?? ... 12 tricks looks cold ] .
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W ... N ... E ... S (2H) - X - (4H) - 5H! ( p ) - 6S - all pass
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It looks like North could have made it easier on South. I learned on these forums that over a 4S preempt: - - DBL = 3 suited T/O - - 4NT! = 2 suited ( normally at least a 5-5 ) Phillip Alder ( newspaper Bridge columnist ) says of the 4NT! 2 -suited overcall: " Just hope that you find your best fit at the correct level. " Here either DBL or 4NT! would have worked.... but the DBL would be better. Then South would not have to worry about enough ♥ in the North hand if 4NT! were the call. South has to be the one to bid 6H.
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Agreed.... you don't necessarily want to initially go past 3NT. That is why Max Hardy says over an Inverted-2D raise that Opener's 3H-jump, 3S-jump, and the 3C-non-jump are all SPLINTERS. If you feel you have a hand that definitely should be played in ♦, then the 4C-jump would definitely show your VOID. With J-4th in ♠, I would choose the 3C ( shortness ) rebid . .... Partner may then have an opportunity to choose 3NT or make a cuebid ( obvious a Sp-Ctrl, since you have both ♥-Ctrls ) . Over his 3S cuebid, you then can rebid 4C to show your void.
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1S - 1NT! 2H - 4m When opener has limited his hand with the Majors after a 1NT!( forcing ) response, it makes no sense ( to me at least ) to be playing in a minor at the 4-level. Just how good can that minor suit be with little or no support from Opener ? By prior agreement 4m! ( 4C or 4D ) makes more sense as either: --- a) a Splinter for ♥ or --- b ) a FSJ ( fit-showing-jump )... as Justin suggested. Since many ONLY play FSJ in competition OR as a passed hand, that leaves splinter. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1S - 1NT! 2H - 3m = weak or invitational by prior agreement If playing Bergen , then you don't have the 1S - 3m as a natural option. So, in the above 3m rebid sequence after 1NT!, I would define it as " to play " .
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Just playing with an idea here..... not advocating it: 1S - 2C! ( GF ) 2D - 2H! ( 4 or 5h ) 2S! ( asks) - ?? ..................... 2NT = 4h/5+c ..................... 3C = 5h/5c ..................... 3H = 5h/6c
