ovncylmz

Yes he means "It would be good to have it other way" for the tournament, but then it does not make sense for any of the others.

Final results are on Dropbox.

Thanks for the offer, I am happy to hear. So just shoot me your email address from BBO - I will contact you. This sounds a good idea, with this we can always announce next two games. We can go with this given we have the software. Some people really want the big event to be open to anyone in the forum. Last time we put two points that everybody who registered has to comply with by writing it down while registering. And we accommodate our regular participants. We do a similar thing, but if the number is so high, then we may need a KO stage for qualifying - note that our regular participants will play a maximum of one qualifying round vs. a newcomer may play multiple. For newcomers, I don't think one participation is enough to clear the bar to make it to the main event automatically. That is why those people have to try the Swiss if they cannot pass the qualifying stage. Then they can collect MP there and maybe get directly in next times.

Then they play the side event. We had like 30 people who played 14 matches in 13 days last time - enough players will be there.

m1cha, valid points. For people who don't want to read all the technical/motivational discussion below, here is the short way: We go with the RR+KO with a qualification stage for some of the entrants. This will make it an open tournament (some people care about this a lot, so sure), but also keep us safe (we have a chance to make sure that new entrants are aware of the tournament, the post, and sometimes even what a challenge is etc.). Now, I understand franks's suggested approaches. However, before making a decision on the system, I always ask the following question: What are we trying to optimize? We are not an official body or something like World Challenge Bridge Organization. We are members of a forum and we want to have fun. Therefore, the best system for me is the one which maximizes the fun while being as fair as possible. Frank forgets about this and goes to fairness part - he also ignores all these frictions. In a KO, we have so many logistic issues: >> KO does not let you have a buffer zone, a small problem delays everything at some point. >> If it goes like 4, 5 or 6 rounds and if you have to play 4 sets in 5 days, you basically need to have BBO as the main part of your life. You have to play during a weekend getaway, because you have to. Youu cannot just send 4 challenges to same person and get done in one day. You have to wait for him to complete, you have to follow the posts etc. >> Let's say you lost in the first round, you need to wait for others to finish the whole thing. What are the advantage of RR? >> Buffer - for example, you can keep up with only playing in the weekend. >> You play vs. a lot of cool people. Especially if the group is big, it is really cool. >> You play all the time before the short playoffs. Note that it took 30 people 13 days to complete a full Round Robin (with 2 groups, so 14 matches). It was near perfect. Imagine that we have something like a 16 x 2 groups again, with most coming from the regular entrants. If somebody wants to join, they must show that they can play a challenge and they can play in a good pace:) I don't want to deal with inactive players - there is no good way of doing this. So, the best strategy is to have players who you are sure that will be active. Anyway, I somehow convinced Frank that we just list the entrants and then find a cut-off in the MP list, decide on direct qualifiers and then arrange the qualifying stage for others. We will open the registration page soon. Cheers, Ovunc

MP for the main event.

Please comment below.

Hello all, I think Event 7B is a real success (still waiting for final match) and 7A worked alright. Our biggest problem for 7A was that somehow the posts got into BBO News and we got so many people who registered without even knowing what a challenge is. Given the community gets bigger and we are only amateur organizers, we will make some changes again: Event 8 will be a single-tournament. The format will be similar to Event 7B (RR then KO). However, we will open it up to all players with the following way: >> People who are top in the MP list will automatically join the Round-Robin stage. >> People who are not qualified directly (either low in the MP list or first timers) will have to play a Qualifying Knockout (one or two rounds based on your MPs). We think that this will also help us to take action against people who register but don't play before they mess up the sensitive RR format. * The games will be 14 to 16 boards with MP & non-best hand. * Players are expected to play 5 to 7 matches per week. * Players have to follow the post daily. We are also thinking of a side Swiss (actually Danish, so repeat games are possible), people who want to play in a slower pace or people who get knocked out in the Qualifying stage. This event will be IMP, non-best hand and will be 2 matches per week. We will open the registration for main event soon. Let me know if you have any feedback or thoughts. Best, Ovunc Note: We need one more organizer who can spend some time and help us regularly. Please write me here or via BBO.

JJ_-kfitz is the only game which can change top standings.. TOP 8 and MP they get: 1st 8 sieong 2nd 6 ovncylmz 3rd 5 nige1 4/5th 4 linxu01 > gwnn 6/7th 3 cepheid > icycookie 8/10th 2 chuck11

First two places are: 1) Sieong 2) Ovncylmz The key game for rest of the standings: thelad-cepheid Others, also please wrap up soon:)

Good game!

broze-hijunny? did u guys start?

Ant this was a swiss for the top half of the players every week. We dont have a software, so tried to do this manually. And last week is Danish, which means that people can play repeat games (1 vs 2 , 3 vs 4 regardless of earlier games). So it is normal to play against same person three times.

Final matchups are announced in the first post. Please complete your game before Wednesday 11:59PM EST. Good luck!

Hehe you made it 1 minute before the deadline. We are not that bad, we would have waited until the morning since you have an explanation.

No problem, you have time until midnight, when is the challenge expiring?

okay guys, let's wrap up the matches. if nobody heard from tylere (if his games are not green yet), he will be disqualified. then we only wait for super important icycookie-sieong game and mkgnao-thelad

Oh boy, just cancel and reissue whenever your opp didn't accept in first day. If he plays just before the expiration date, and if you don't - then you are responsible.

I think this tournament (7B) went really good and the format was nice - except some people complained about the IMP/best-hand. We will open up a discussion thread for the Event 8 soon. We had several issues in the parallel event (7A) due to some players, I am actually very glad that we kept the list "somehow" invited for 7B. For Event 8 (Probably will be in IMP or MP/non-best hand), I am somehow planning to combine events A & B for the earlier stage: >> We get registrations for the Premier Event, it will be open to anyone who can play in a similar pace with Event 7B. >> A set number of players (Group X) will directly start from Round-Robin stage, based on masterpoints list. >> Others have to play a qualifying round - or maybe two rounds if too many entries, all numbers will be decided based on the entries - to join Round-Robin stage. >> We put Group X with winners in the qualifying round (Group Y) and these people will play the Round-Robin. >> For people who cannot play in this pace, or people who cannot make it to Round-Robin, there will be a Side Swiss, probably in IMPs/non-best hand (since I don't have software and stuff, the actual movement will be Danish, with multiple games between two players are possible). People who are in the Round-Robin will not be able to play in this event. Any ideas? Especially about IMP/MP for the premier event?

olegru-phoenix214 is our big final. Given phoenix is in the Netherlands for a juniors tournament, I think he and olegru may enjoy their final match starting sometime this weekend or the end of the weekend. Congrats to both!

icycookie--sieong mkgnao--thelad (mkgnao may not be playing because he is in White House Juniors) nekthen--tylere (tylere, two matches waiting!) crazy4hoop--tylere (tylere, two matches waiting!) PLEASE KEEP US POSTED IF SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH YOUR GAME OR OPPONENT!

You must play following games: tt1971 thelad rosengatan tt1971

IMPORTANT There is a mistake in the matchups (a repeat game in top 10 tables) - while doing the data transfer from one week to another, I messed up something since I am doing it manually and there are so many random 5-5 and 12-0 results. I tried to change it but could not figure out. After some work, I think that it is not feasible for us to change it right now, especially given some people already started playing. We go like as it was originally announced Saturday midnight!

If it is green - you cannot cancel. Contact nige1 via BBO in case if he does not follow here.

Please delete this and the next comment (by zzmiy) - otherwise people will be confused.