Brandal

Is it possible to adjust a score after the tourney is finished? If yes,how do I do that? In general,are there any "tools" for TD's available outside the standard BBO UI? (Don't ask what I mean because I don't know) :)

Is it or will it maybe be possible to arrange a team series? Maybe have 8 player teams,to increase frequency of 4 players being able to participate when a round is played? Or maybe it won't even be a huge point that every match in a round is played at the same time with same cards,which would probably make it easier in every respect. Every team plays all the other teams once and having results/table after each round. Just a thought,might add excitement to the team matches........ anyone have opinions?

excellent reply,thanks,many valid points here,much appreciated

How can you say this? If opps open 1♠, can you show ♥s at 1-level?? I think NOT. When we open 1♥ showing ♠s, we actually GIVE away a bid to opps. How can this ever be 'destructive'?? :blink: :blink: You seem to have no idea what destructive and constructive bidding is. Relaybidding is designed for OURSELVES, to find the exact shape of partner's hand, and have accurate slambidding, so it's CONSTRUCTIVE. During relay biddings, you can double and show what suit your partner needs to lead, while with natural bidding you can't. However, if you Double, you give away more bidding space to opps. As I pointed out with the first quote, with transfer openings we don't steal bids, we create extra bids for opps! After 1♥, you can Double with ♥s, and bid 1♠ as takeout Dbl. What can you do after a 1♠ opening showing the exact same thing as the 1♥ opening in our examples? Only Dbl for takeout, and you can't show ♥s at 1-level. :blink: And during relaybidding (GF auction, sometimes slam try), opps usually don't have anything to say, so how can we steal bids anyway? :blink: If you post such kind of nonsense, you can't avoid debates imo. As is said, nobody plays natural anymore, since stayman alone is not natural, and everyone who plays majors from 5-cards, doesn't play his minors "natural", he plays them canapé style. Where can someone draw the line? And I hope you learn some things about relaybidding next time you want to call it 'destructive'. Look at http://www.vikingclub.starwarsguiden.net/f...?page=grandslam and tell me how you can find this wonderfull grand slam in a 4-2 fit without relay-bidding? I'm actually a very nice guy :D What seems constructive to you might seem destructive to someone else.

I'm not trying to "draw the line" for others,I was merely stating my opinion. What I am "referring" to,is for example relay bidding where "nothing" is "real" suit. I would assume opps might have a heart suit occasionally when "you" bid 1H showing spades or something else,and I just find that "destructive". Not being an expert on bidding relays,it seems to be designed to keep opps out of the bidding. If someone can explain the benefits for the bidding pair,except for "stealing" a possible suit deliberately from opps,say my pd bids 1H when he has spade suit please enlighten me. Anyway I was just expressing my opinion,wasn't intended to cause a debate as such. Even I appreciate the occasional Stayman :rolleyes: 12 posts now,where will it end

I would have to say yes :D thanks for helping me to 11th post I have to get rid of that "Warn 0%" column! :(

The word "basically" in there somewhere was an attempt to not have to type "except Stayman,transfers after NT,Blackwood,2C being artificial" I apologise for not making sense,sorry it got to you. I will be quiet now,it was a useless post anyway :rolleyes:

And one player or a pair coming down on a TD wouldn't possibly lead to flaming? I'm a little confused :rolleyes: How do you see this feedback system work? You mean a thread where specific rulings are brought up and discussed,get second opinions,the TD in "question" named,maybe someone provides the rule from the lawbook etc etc? I would like that too,if no flaming was involved,would be a good way to learn how to handle disputes next time it occurs.......

don't do that... you should be one of the first who would like to see a feedback system, i'd think.. i know that if i directed/hosted tourneys, i'd *love* to see a place where my rulings could be judged... hell, baseball umps get that, football refs, even (probably) r/l tds Someone suggested "if everyone in the tourney rated/voted" then I will be more than happy to receive feedback/rating with everyone involved in the process. Who knows,we might even learn from that. I know I've already learned 1 thing.....write "NO HUM" on description. I'm a simple man,I believe in basically bidding what I have,that's true bridge to me. :rolleyes:

Well here's another piece of criticism... Drop the damn martyr complex. "Oh, we do SO much for the community, only out of the goodness of our hearts. How dare anyone critique anything that we do. We mean well. And we're SO overworked Love us. Worship us." It gotten old. It gotten really, really old. I think that you really might want to consider how the position of "tournament director" is likely to evolve over time. Most of the "mechanical" functions are slowly, but steadily being automated. Players can already automatically replace their partners with subsitiutes. My guess is that it would be relatively easy to design a system that automatically created an individual tournament every 45 minutes. Turn to a moment to Brandal's post: >Being a "rookie-TD" on BBO,having about 10 tourneys under my belt >in the 3 weeks I've been offering my time to others as a "TD". >Not being a certified TD or having alot of theoretical education in >directing I am pretty sure I qualify in the 90% cathegory. >I haven't come across any problem I couldn't solve yet,most likely >because 99% of the players fall under the cathegory "we're glad someone >wants to arrange tourneys for us so do your best and we're happy". Simply put, the need for this type of unskilled labor is going to steadily decrease over time. What will continue to be important is individual's who are capable of dealing with social conflict of one kind or another including: Cheating accusations Cases involving unauthorized information Arguments regarding convention regulations Disagreements over psyches Like it or not, players have a right to expect that regulators are consitently applying a known set of rules. In the absence of any other notice, I think that they have the right to assume that a game of "Bridge" will be based on the rules of "Bridge". I'm sure this is all good stuff,thank goodness I don't have to agree with you. But you're absolutely right,in "your" future bridgeworld there is no place for me.

"First of all, 90 percent of the TD's on here are so grossly incompetent or unwilling to do ANYTHING in the protection of player's rights with enforcement of obligations to get it right the first time anyway. They don't know the basic Laws, they claim to have knowledge of things when the given instructions tell otherwise, and when a player has a legitimate claim for cause, more often than not, nothing is ever done to address that claim. That leaves the player who called in the first place wondering why they are even there. DO YOUR JOBS, TD - DIRECT. If you can't, then get the heck out."------- Being a "rookie-TD" on BBO,having about 10 tourneys under my belt in the 3 weeks I've been offering my time to others as a "TD". Not being a certified TD or having alot of theoretical education in directing I am pretty sure I qualify in the 90% cathegory. I haven't come across any problem I couldn't solve yet,most likely because 99% of the players fall under the cathegory "we're glad someone wants to arrange tourneys for us so do your best and we're happy". You're probably a brilliant player,I'm not You could probably be a brilliant TD as well,I'm not Having read your post I am seriously thinking about giving up "directing" and hosting tourneys,it was worth it up to now,but I don't handle hostility well,nor being offended by someone who doesn't even know me.

Educational popups? :D

Anything that doesn't affect the "playability" is fine by me. Adding logos/companynames to roomnames=fine Adding logos/companynames to tournamentnames=fine Having companylogos/names on cards=fine Bannerads=fine But please no aggressive popups that you have to click on 5 times during a hand to remove.

To mr. Fred B) ---If you had a choice of playing in a random free tournament ---or spending 5 cents to play in the imaginary tourney I described, ---would you really play in the free tourney? If so, why? Well Fred,I'm not here to play for money,I have actually won a few tourneys and I never wished "ohhh....if only there was money in it for me".In other words I play for the enjoyment alone. Now,having believed the Hosts/TDs of each tourney got the starting money alone,not knowing some of the $ found their way to BBO to help with expenses running BBO,I chose not to play in pay tourneys. It is NOT a principle,as I have to pay to play "live" bridge it is not some shocking observation to me that people charge to arrange. B) When some of it goes to help financing BBO as a site,I see pay tourneys differently and will consider p(l)aying in those tourneys who help finance BBO. I'm not at all against small fees to keep BBO up and running,we get so much back. ---Do you feel that the fact that you happen to have a pulse "entitles" ---you to a free, high-quality,online bridge service? No I do not. I will think this over,including the rest of what you wrote that I haven't quoted, and find out what's best for me. I appreciate your cander and insight,there were a few things in your post I haven't given any thought until now.

"1) you want to blame me in munkey play ?????? 2) Belgium UNKNOWN Expert pls keep your words OK ???? " I have no idea what the gold star means,but answer to your question is NO Insults are bad no matter where and who it comes from.

"I suspect that $10 per set it too much for many Poles, and it is a shame that they miss out on a great product as a result." In my opinion a free tournament with 100 pairs is a better product than a paid tournament with 10-20 pairs,because the scoring would be more accurate the more tables in the tournament.With say 10 scores on the sheet you leave alot more to luck than with 50 scores..... I've even seen 1 table paid tournament,those must be a blast..... It would instigate more paid tournaments,and I am against pay-to-play tourneys. More cheating,more annoyed when someone at table or me disconnected and replaced,more "heat" from annoyed partners........I honestly don't see a positive thing for me(the player). :D