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Yes, I agree. We have modified the 2 of a Major openings to 5332 or 6322 (Jxxxxx or worse) hands so that responder with a singleton in opener's major can play in responder's suit (5 or 6-cards) at the 3-level or in 2♠.

I don't know the BBO rules well. In ACBLand I play with several Precision partners an artificial 1♦ opening promises 10-15 hcp and one or both 4-cd majors. This is known as the Diamond Major. A response of 1♥ or 1♠ is alerted as it is less than invitational values (limit raise) and can be passed. In addition, ♠s may be longer than ♥s and occasionally ♥s may only be 3-cds. ALERT, ALERT, ALERT! We also play 2♣ response is weak with both minors = pass or correct. http://www.bridgeclublive.com/Include/Diamond.htm

So change the NT to whatever you want! 14-16 V is popular now.

Google Precision System: http://www.turboirc.com/precision/ http://www.duralbridge.com/precision.ing.htm http://www.larryco.com/OldStuff/files/DB-LC-2007CONVCARD.pdf

RESPONSES to 1♦: QUICK SUMMARY Edited 7/26/11: Responses are playing that 1♦ promises a 4-cd major! 1 Major: (a) 0-5 HCP Bid a 3M with 0-2♦, OPENER AVOIDS JUMP REBIDS: Safety Net! (b) 6-10 HCP 4-card M suit or better, bid ♥s first even if ♠s are longer 1NT 6-10 HCP Balanced, denies a 4-card major 2♣, 3♣. 4♣ 0+/~10/12+ HCP BOTH MINORS: Pass / Correct / Raise 2♦ 10+ HCP L.R.+ Does NOT deny a 4M or 5M (if G.F.) 2 M 10-11 HCP L.R. 4-4 or 5-card Major e-mail me for more details if interested ...

No, from GCC: DISALLOWED 6. Opening one bids which by partnership agreement could show fewer than 8 HCP. (Not applicable to a psych.)

A better approach (perhaps?): X = 6+ hcp, no long suit, cue = 6+ hcp and 4441♠ and transfers starting at 1NT, therefore on this hand transfer to diamonds (2♣) and invite game by raising partner's rebid.

In the 60s, the Lea System was a similar system. The DEMICOMA system: DEstructive MInors and COnstructive MAjors. I don't have my notes with me, but the PEAS system seems to be the precursor to DEMICOMA. However, consider Garozzo: "Benito Garazzo is arguably the best Bridge theoretician the world has ever known. He writes in one of his books that describing suits is more important than any other aspect of Bridge bidding . Suits are more important than HCP’s , singletons, controls or any other aspect of Bridge bidding." Reference: http://www.pitbulls.shawbiz.ca/Coaches%20Corner/Theory/Hand%20Evaluation%20-%20Garozzo.htm From the DEMICOMA Site: "When was DEMICOMA developed?" "The development of DEMICOMA began as PEAS (Dr. Deepak Khemani coined this term. PEAS stands for Paranjape Early Asking System), an aggressive slam bidding methodology, in mid-1981. A sort of backward integration led to DEMICOMA in its early form and about 80-page notes were prepared and cyclostyled for the benefit of IIT boys in 1986. There was no further printed publication after that." DEMICOMA is a strong club and diamond major opening system: http://web.archive.org/web/20010402051227/http://demicoma.com/

There are many possibilities, depends how much memory you want to use / invest. One improvement is to play transfer Precision and the acceptance of the transfer sets trumps and is a Beta Ask for Controls. This is documented in Precision Today, a paperback still in print. A more difficult approach is that the cheapest bid by opener is a Relay asking for further distribution description.

True, transfers into minors are problematic, but they can be handled with some artificiality. Keylime and I play 1 - 2♣ (either or both minors) - 2♦ (Relay) - 2♥ = 5+ clubs / 2♠ = 5+ diamonds and 2NT = 5-5. See url below for more details.

There are various possibilities: 2♥ could be SAB and then 2♠ would be no support and 1-3 Controls, now 3♠ would be a SAB-4 ask and the response would show 4-cd support and a minimum hand (1-3 Controls)

Two suited hands are easy with transfers and relays (delay Beta until later). You can make 3-suiters work with relays and artificial 3-suited replies by responder. With a 5cd major, you can pattern out to show the 3-suiter. With 4441 or 5m440 responder replies 2♥ with any 4441 and 2♠ with 5m440 to the 1♣ opener. I would reserve a jump to 2NT as a specialized ask, so rebid 1♠ or 1NT to facilitate distribution showing. Garozzo recommends: Bridge is a game of suits - distribution is king (i.e. he no longer plays Blue Team Club).

We play the Overcall System with the 1NT for takeout (a) 6-15 nV, (b) 9-15 V along [with] the Power Double (a good 15+ hcp) with Herbert Responses. NT for takeout always guarantees 3 cards in the other suits (usually Qxx or better) and could contain a weak 5-cd suit. We are pleased with the results without any tweaks for the past 3 years.

Perhaps, but with 4-4 in the majors and unbalanced Opener would rebid 1♥, not 1♠. Sometimes 1NT (by responder) is passed. We play this as 4♠ and 5+♦ and invitational only, responder could pass with a poor 5 hcp and no fit as opener would have jumped with 19+ after the semi-positive 2♣.

Gentlemen, an interesting discussion, however ... The following is from a book by Benito Garozzo in discussing systems in general. Bridge is a game of suits “The cards don't always play the same way. On offense, a queen is somewhat useless in with two low cards, however it is a certain trick with an ace and king. On defense a suit headed by three major honors might not come to a trick, whereas a hand with a double fit, each to concentrated honors in a long suit, on offense, produce a quantity of tricks absolutely disproportionate in respect to their HCP total. Two mirroring 4333's require a huge number of honors to develop tricks, but the presence of a singleton or void reduces drastically the strength necessary for game or slam in a suit. "They are, these, all familiar principles to any player agonista, but they seem to be forgotten when other used systems are examined. "Also, certainly the incorrect application of the law of tricks is a clear sign of ignoring the fact that bridge is a game of suits. The breakdown of high cards and the presence of unusual distributions carry such an importance, in truth, on the play of the hand, such that renders nearly insignificant the use of the law of total tricks. Larry Cohen, in his books, places such and so many conditions for a correct application of his laws, to render obvious how imprecise the Law is in the absence of the distributional information. "To be able to take correct competitive action, in fact, it is necessary to know the suits and the distribution of partner’s high cards and to inform partner likewise of one's own high cards and suits. Otherwise the appraisal of the offensive and defensive potentialities of the deal could be based alone on absolutely generic considerations, and so often lead to wrong competitive choices. "Not always, obviously, does the auction allow the exchange of all necessary information. A good system, consequently, tries to anticipate the problem through a structure of openings and responses that permits a rapid transmission of the essential elements of the hand in terms of suits, distribution, strength, and honor concentration." [Edited out the discussion of Splinters.] from the Pit Bulls site in Canada: http://www.pitbulls.shawbiz.ca/Suits%20vrs%20Splinters.htm However, I understand your problems are more complicated playing a strong club of 15+ hcp. I do play a version of the Millennium Club with transfer negatives at the 1-level with 1♠ = 0-8 hcp.

This approach is described in ONE CLUB COMPLETE by Kathy Wei & Judy Radin. It is out of print, but Baron-Barclay had a few copies left a few years ago. I have been playing such an approach for over 10 years. Here is our (Keylime & me) treatment for pairs: 1♣ - 1♦ - 1♥ (4+♥ & 1 R. F.): 1♠ = 0-7 hcp & 4+♠ 1 NT = 0-4 hcp (without an Ace & 0-3♠) 2♣ = 5-7 hcp & 0-2♥ 2♦ = 5-7 hcp & 3♥ 2♥ = 3-5 hcp & 4+♥ Now, continuations by Opener are natural and canape-like (i.e. a minor may be longer than the major). Jump in a minor by opener is a ONE ROUND FORCE and a rebid of the major at the 3-level by opener is a ONE ROUND FORCE. Similar follow-ons after 1♣ - 1♦ - 1♠: 1NT = 0-4 hcp and 0-2♠ 2♣ = 5-7 hcp & 3♠

From the ACBL GCC: CARDING .... In addition, a pair may be prohibited from playing any method (such as suit preference systems at trick one [obvious shift? - LPL], when they are deemed to be playing it in a manner which is not compatible with the maintenance of proper tempo (much like dual message signals). This decision may be appealed to the tournament committee. Although my partner and I are sensitive to this, we ALWAYS pause at trick one and explain to the declarer that this is our standard strategy and tempo at trick one.

I wish :lol: . However, at the Gatlinburg Regional in the A/B Open Pairs (750/2000 MP) we were allowed to play Kaplan Inversion and Mult-Landy - two Mid-Chart Conventions. Go figure.

In ACBLand it is clear if you read the rules: Delayed Alerts Beginning with and including opener’s second call, an Alertable bid above the level of 3NT bid is a delayed Alert. Passes, doubles and redoubles requiring an Alert must always be Alerted immediately. [2nd boldface and underline added by poster] http://www.acbl.org/play/alert.html PART IV: DOUBLES, REDOUBLES AND PASSES Except for those doubles with highly unusual or unexpected meanings, doubles do not require an Alert. [boldface added by poster] http://www.acbl.org/play/alertprocedures.html

Playing in the Gatlinburg Regional 2 session A/B Pairs (750-2000 & 2000+ MP) we were allowed to play 2 Mid-Chart Conventions: Kaplan Inversion (1♠ response to an opening bid of 1♥ = forcing and 0-3♠) Multi-Landy over Opponent's 1NT Opening (2♦ = unspecified Major Suit) I was surprised, B players (750-2000 MP) may not have much experience against such conventions.

We use the One Club Complete approach for 1♣ opener's rebids at the 1-level: 1♥: (a) 4+♥ and ONE ROUND FORCE(maybe a longer minor), or (b) 2+♥ and balanced 20+ hcp Responder bids 1♠ now with 0-4 and NO Ace & Opener can NOW Jump with G.F. 1♠: 4+♠ and ONE ROUND FORCE (maybe a longer minor) Responder bids 1NT now with 0-4 hcp and NO Ace & Opener can NOW Jump with G.F. 1NT: 17-19 hcp 2♣: 6+♣ and Not Forcing (denies a 4-cd major) 2♦: 6+ ♦ and N.F. (denies a 4-cd major) And these NEW BIDS @ the 2-level: 2♥: 5+♥ and 4+ minor, N.F. but about 5-losers (2NT asks for the minor) 2♠: 5+♠ and 4+ minor, N.F. but about 5-losers (2NT asks for the minor) 2NT: (a) 5+♣ and 5+♦ and ONE ROUND FORCE, or (b) G.F. with 5M + 5m 3X: Ace asking, cheapest response denies an ace (3NT = Ace of the cheapest suit)

I wrote this post because of the "DOUBLE, DOUBLED ..." not because Meckwell again came from behind. Gatlinburg final table count = 8917.5 - first time under 9000 tables in several years. Overall MP Winners: 174.95 Jeff Meckstroth, Tampa FL 158.92 Eric Rodwell, Clearwater Bch FL 155.07 Cezary Balicki, Smolec 155.07 Mike Passell, Las Vegas NV 155.07 Carolyn Lynch, Scottsdale AZ 155.07 Adam Zmudzinski, Katowice 40-479 Jeff played Saturday with Sally Meckstroth (wife?) and won an additional 16.03 MP with a 3rd in the Open Pairs to top the list (as usual).

I don't know symmetric by heart, but since we play 4-card Majors, it allows the 1♠ auctions to be exact for 3-suited hands as we open 1♥ with 4-4 in the majors. All the 3-suited hands go into the 2♦ follow-on after 2♣ A & GF. 1♠ - 2♣ - 2♦ - 2♥® - 2NT = 5=4=4=0 and 3♣ = 5=4=0=4. 1♥ - 2♣ - 2♦ - 2♥® - 2NT = 4=4=4=1 / 4=5=4=0 (confounded) 1♥ - 2♣ - 2♦ - 2♥® - 3♣ = 4=4=1=4 / 4=5=0=4 (confounded)

The Strong Club - the Scanian Way by Mats Nilsland (1995) uses the 1♦ response as negative (you might not like that) and a 1♥ rebid: (a) 17-13 bal (maybe semi-balanced, or (b) 17+ with 5+ ♥s, not 1-suited, denies 4+♠, or © 20+ with 4♥ and a longer minor, or (d) 17+ both minors, or (e) 20-23 with 1=4=4=4 or GF with any 4♥441, or (f) GF 5440 with non-touching 4-cd suits. What a mouth full :<)).

Yes, my spread sheet has 0-4 hcp by responder is 20.5 % of ALL hands when partner opens a 15 hcp or higher 1♣. Swedish Precision uses the 1NT rebid by the 1♣ opener as any single suited hand. In our 1M - 2♣ Artificial and Game Forcing DESIGN, we put almost all single suited hands, balanced and 3-suiters into ONE BID and then all other rebids are 2-suited. Maybe that concept could work for you?