I am trying a Stong Club System (The Millennium Club) which takes the 5M out of the 1 Club unless 4 losers or less. Now 1 Club is (a) Balanced 15+, (b) Clubs the only suit, 6+ and 15+, © 2suited with 5+ clubs and a second (third?) suit of exactly 4-cards, or (d) Very strong Hand (4 losers or less) and distribution. Responses are transfer (1-under) and 1S is the negative or all others. We have changed it to a 4-card Major System with Scanian Major Suit Raises. Two sessions have only found the usual problem with opening 2 clubs and finding if 3NT is playable. Larry