Hi Mike, B) In this typical auction, it is very important to know directly about the ♥ fit cause you have great chances to be preempted by the ♠ So, in that case, I play a special and simple treatment with transfers, here it is : 1♥ - (2♠) - ? dbl = cards no ♥ fit, no m/5 2NT : transfer to ♣ with 5♣+ no ♥ fit 3♣ : transfer to ♦ with 5♦+, no ♥ fit 3♦ : ♥ fit, limit + 3♥ : competitive Try it, simple and effective Alain