I think you don't really have much problem when your shape relay ends at 3♥ or lower. After 3♥, it sounds very good to use 3♠ QP ask 3N To play 4♣ RKC in ♣ 4♦ terminator puppet 4♥ RKC in ♦ 4♠ RKC in ♥ 4NT RKC in ♠ So, after 3♦, you can just keep most of these "kickback" RKCs and use something like 3♥ QP ask 3♠ RKC in ♠ 3N To play 4♣ RKC in ♣ 4♦ terminator puppet 4♥ RKC in ♦ 4♠ RKC in ♥ It is when your shape relay ends at 3♠ or higher that this method sucks. e.g. 3♠-5♣(RKC of ♠)-5♥-? Now often you cannot check trump Q cheaply. Meckwell plays 4♥/4♠/4N as RKC in low/middle/high when 3 suits are in focus.The problem still exists but at least you are no higher than standard bidders. Though more frequently suit-length based RKCs are lower, you might have a big problem when p is 5431 and you want to play in p's 3 card minor. Kickbacks are smoother.