dwar0123

Using your scale. S1: 1 W1: 3 N1: 8 E1: 10 S2: 7 W2: 9* N2: 7 E2: 0 *He is on lead with what appears to be a running heart suit and two side suits stopped, including the aforementioned club suit, I would be very happy to be west on lead against 3nt.

This is an interesting take on the situation and I think speaks volumes about the level of people we play with/against. Against people I tend to play against, I would expect half of them would be pleased to be in 2 clubs doubled and not realize until after they score it up that they are truly boned, the other half would redouble and not take any inference of my petrification of declaring when they bid their game over my 2♦. With partners that I play with, my fear is that if I bid 2♦ initially, my partner will compete. This pass then bid 2♦ should be a way of screaming at him that I literally have nothing for him. I can totally see how screaming that at partner makes it much easier for opponents to wack me at 2♦, but still, I would rather that then be wacked at 3.

I actually got this one right at the table!(the play of the hand, not to sure about my pass) [hv=pc=n&s=st3hqjt96dakca862&n=sak85hk82dj932ct7&d=e&v=b&b=10&a=3cppdp4hppp]266|200[/hv] Lead was 7♦, I covered with 9♦ and it was ducked around to my ace. Plan the play, adv+ put in spoiler.

Well, I'll give it a go.

Fun story, thanks!

I would bid 2♠ with the west hand and if east raised to 3♠ I would accept the game invite. I don't see much point in showing the 4 card diamond suit. I'll show the 6 spades. If we get to a playable game, it won't be in diamonds and if it ends up being nt, no reason to map out the hand for the opponents.

Only significant change to timing that I can see is to lead a spade to ace before trying to ruff a diamond with dummies last trump. Then taking the two major aces and ruffling the spade. This works fine if the opponent again under ruffs the diamond, but he should go up with king and return a trump pulling all our trump and leaving him with one small left to trump our diamond and take the remaining tricks in the majors.

This is a double dummy problem I first saw back in the late 80's. I don't remember the exact cards but the solution is reproduced. There was a good story behind it to, some famous player playing in a major event with a vugraph audience that was left stunned by how this went. Anyway, I thought it was pretty cool(if you know the story post it!) If you have seen it before I apologize I am fairly new to the forums, please don't spoil it for those that haven't. [hv=pc=n&s=st63h862d7c&w=shqj97dq86c&n=sq95ha43d9c&e=s7h5dcq8743]399|300[/hv] You are in the south hand in 4♠ and need 5 of the remaining 7 tricks, how do you play it.

I know you are being ironic, but really, it wasn't about the 14 point hand OP posted but the 12 point hand roger described later on.

Well, that is an interesting twist, I may be screwed, I'll think about it some more. Edit: Yep, I am boned. Good defense, I look forward to seeing a better line, interesting hand.

I must be missing something, I thought about this quite a bit already, but it looks cold to me. You go up with ace, ruff a low diamond. This establishes your hand if you could pull trump, so any time opponent overruffs and returns a trump you can claim the rest. Scenario 1. You lead a diamond and lho ruffs with king. He now has 2 trump remaining and you have 3 in hand and your diamond suit is good. You can claim rest. Scenario 2. You lead a diamond and lho ruffs with 5. You over ruff. He now has 2 trump remaining and you have 3 in your hand. Lead jack of clubs and overtake with queen. Scenario 2.1 If he lets it hold, lead another trump, claim. Scenario 2.2 If he wins king, ruff whatever he returns, pull last trump and claim. Scenario 3. You successfully ruff a diamond with the 8 of clubs(dropping the king, regardless of who had it). lead a small heart and ruff with the 3 of clubs(assumption lho does not also have a stiff heart) Lead queen of diamonds. Lho is assumed to have 3 clubs to king remaining, J is on board and Q10 is in your hand. Scenario 3.1 If lho ruffs with King, pitch from board. Scenario 3.1.1 Opponent returns a club. Claim, your hand is good. Scenario 3.1.2 Opponent returns a major, ruff with the 10 in your hand. Opponent has 2 small clubs, you have Q, board has J. Lead a good diamond. If opponent ruffs, over ruff on board. Opponent has a small club, board is out of clubs and you have queen of clubs in hand. Take Ace of hearts and Ace of spades, if opponent ruffs an ace, your hand consists of the only remaining trump and good diamonds, claim. If opponent doesn't ruff in, you have queen of clubs in hand. Tricks scored. King of Hearts, Ace of Diamonds, diamond ruff, ace of clubs, diamond ruff, heart ruff, lose king of clubs as you lead diamond, ruff heart back into hand, diamond ruff, ace of hearts, ace of spades, queen of clubs, concede 13th trick small club to lho. You scored 7 clubs 3 majors and 1 ace of diamonds. Opponents scored 2 clubs.

If I am feeling adventurous I might pass. 2♣ doubled isn't a game. If you can hold it to 4, it is only worth 380. Vulnerable with such a misfit you are bound to go for far more then that. They also might run. If I am feeling wimpish, I'd bid 2♦. If they redouble and it comes back to me, 2♦, at this point partner should have a very good idea what I have.

I understood that you open 1nt with a wide range of hands; that it includes hands with 12-13 points and a running 6 card suit is what concerns me. I appreciate that a 6 card running suit is worth more then 10 points, especially if you get in early. My issue isn't with hand evaluation as much as with the opening of this shape with the intent to mislead the opponents. No, it is merely light, but it is not misleading the opponents about the playing strength of your hand. It is spades. Opening 1nt shows a balanced 15-17 count, not a distributional 12 count with a lot of trick taking power but no defensive power. To many of the others, I wouldn't open the OP hand 1nt and if it happened against me I wouldn't call the director. My issue isn't the OP hand but Roger's suggestion he would open 1nt with even worse hands, as low as a 12 count.

Fine, it doesn't meet the legal definition of a psyche, just the literal definition. You win an irrelevant point.

I apologize for my ignorance, I thought that an undisclosed understanding would fall under the realm of unauthorized information. If miss information is a better term I stand corrected. A psyche is misinformation. Here is a bridge definition Psychic bids, psychs, psyches...these are bids made in an attempt to achieve a good score by misleading the opponents into taking losing actions in the bidding and/or play. As that is one of the main reasons he bid's 1nt with these types of hands, I would call it a pysche. As it is an understood part of their system, it is systematic and undisclosed. Saying good 14 does not describe with enough clarity a 6 card running suit with 3 unstopped side suits. You need to actually say he will open this with a 6 card running suit and nothing else to meet full disclosure.

Of course it is tactically brilliant and godlike, you are misrepresenting your hand and getting payed off by the opponents playing as if you had a hand that fits a nt bid. Thus they underbid and/or defend passively. Where if they know you open hands like this 1nt they might be more inclined to defend aggressively and/or punish you. Saying that you consider 13 points(with an unguarded queen and jack) to be worth a good 14 just sounds like a rationalization. I realize you have a 6 card running suit, thus if you get in you make 1nt, but a 1nt bid is telling the world you have a flat 15-17 count, not a running 6 card suit with 3 unstopped side suits. If you opened that hand against me 1nt, even with 14+-17 on your card, I would call the director. You clearly have far more experience in this venue then do I and obviously those in the 'know' are not being harmed by the UI. It is just the rest of us tournament players who play with full disclosure and expect full disclosure in return that are getting burned by these godlike tactics that are really only godlike because they are in fact systematic undisclosed psyches.

If you would always open this 1nt and your partner knows this, isn't that an implicit partnership understanding that you will violate the 15-17 highcard point nt range with a long running suit and thus your 1nt calls should be alerted?

Hey, I used to play quite a bit at club 98 in that 100 club visit list!

Edit, revised my line after thinking about it more. Go up with ace and start cross ruffing. If rho has king you missed a chance to make 7, however if clubs split 4-1 lho can ruff in with king when ever he wants but you can claim after that for 6, take the two aces on board after ruffing first diamond, then continue with cross ruff.

Bid 3nt and hope your partner has ak a(or at least aj a) in the black suits and the hearts split 4-4. You are almost certainty going to go down in something, might as well be a game just incase you don't go down.

Pard should be 4522 and declarer 4225 Reasoning. Pard would bid michaels with 5 spades and opponent would open spades with 5. Diamond lead can not be from a 3 small and a stiff would leave declarer with 4 clubs. pard might overcall 2h with 6 and declarer would double 2h if he had a stiff heart and 3 diamonds. Declarer should have akq of clubs to rebid with only 5. Pard does not have ak of spades(would have led if had both) but probably has one of them for his overcall.

2nt-4♣(gerber)-4nt(3 aces)-6nt or 6♣ depending if its mp's or imps(and how much you like the idea of the lead coming into all your kings).

6♥ has play but I think i'd settle for 3nt

Well, clubs is out, partner could have bid them instead of diamonds if he had them, diamonds is out cause its the obvious lead and the double and the nt bid makes me want to lead something else. Partner is very unlikely to have 4 hearts and probably 3 at most making hearts not a source of tricks. So its spades, I'll choose the 6 of spades, I've been called out by some pickup players for leading top of nothing in a 4 card suit but I really like the idea that a 4th best lead shows something.

I was in a similar slam today that was lacking an off suit ace and the 10 of trumps as well in an 8 card AK fit. Technically this isn't hopeless on sight, QJ could fall tight or east could drop a stiff honor and you can finesse west twice.