Chamaco

Hi all ! I'd appreciate feedback on this. The scheme sacrifices 3 suited bids for a better description of 2suited hands while keeping explicit (xfer) weak 2 bids so that pard can raise immediately. BACKGROUND Currently we play 1C = 16+ any, excluding 4441 17-20 AND excluding 4-losers 2 suiters 1D = 4+ diamonds (REAL DIAMONDS!), < 16 hcp 1M = 5+, < 16 hcp 1NT = balanced (12)13-15 (we'll open also most 11 count with 2 Aces) 2C = 6+ C or 5C4M with good clubs 2D = MULTI (weak 2M or 4441 17-20) 2H = 3 suiter short in Diamonds 2S= generic TOUCHING 2 suiter, about 4 losers (usually 55, 16-18, but might be 65 with 13-15, etc etc) 2NT= generic NONTOUCHING 2 suiter, about 4 losers (like 2S) ==== WHAT WOULD WE LIKE TO CHANGE ? We absolutely want to keep the 4-losers 2 suited hands OUT of the 1C opener, because we firmly believe this makes the 1C opener much less vulnerable to opps interference. However, we like less and less the 2D Multi opener. The first reason why we dislike it is the fact that in Italy you cannot open a 2D Multi if you have < 6 hcp. This is a shame, especially in 3rd seat. The second reason is that pard cannot freely raise preemptively the suit promised by pard (because he ignores which major is held by opener). The main reason why we had chose to use Multi was to allow to bid "better" the 4441 17-20, but we are ready to give this up. We use the 1C-1D-1H opener's rebid to show strong, non minimum reverse hands, so we might just use a followup of this sequence to solve this. Still, we'd like to maintain a way to show strong 2 suiter (Misiry might work for instance :) ), as well as being able to open a weak 2 WITHOUT using Multi 2D. This might require to give up the 3 suited opening short in Diamonds (2D or 2H, according to the versions) opener. HOW DO WE PLAN TO OPEN THE 3 SUITED HAND SHORT IN Diamonds ? - 4414 and 4405 shall be opened 1H: we use Kaplan inversion and 2/1 GF, the 1NT rebid by opener (showing either a Flannery hand or 44M hand) will be passed more often rather than preferencing to hearts with a doubleton Opening 1H with 44M will also occur on balanced hands, avoiding to pen 1NT with 44M, risking to lose the partscore spot at MP - (43)15 shall be opened frequently 1NT, unless clubs are biddable or the 4 card major is very good. HOW DO WE PLAN TO SHOW THE STRONG 2 SUITERS ? We plan to use a scheme of xfer 2-level opener I have seen adopted by some experts: 2D = 5+ hearts, weak, OR STRONG 2 suiter hearts + minor 2H = 5+ spades, weak, OR STRONG 2 suiter with spades + minor 2S = 55+ in minors, weak/strong 2NT = 55+majors, weak/strong Ys, I know the disadvantage of xfer openings (extra low level cuebid, extra chance for penalty given by pass then double), but on the whole I think the other advantages compared to the previous scheme outweight these disadvantages. =============== The final scheme would be: 1C = 16+ excluding 2 suiters 1D = 4+ D, max 15 hcp 1H = usually 5+H, might be 44M, max 15 hcp- Kaplan Inversion may follow. 1S = 5+S, max 15 1NT = (12)13-15, balanced WITHOUT 44M, very often offshape (e.g. 5431 with bad clubs 5 bagger) 2C = 6C ot 5C+4M with god clubs 2D = weak 2 in H or strong 55+, H +m 2H = weak 2 in S or strong 55+, S +m 2S = 55+ minors, weak/strong 2NT = 55+ majors, weak/strong Comments on the playability of such scheme ? Thanks a lot !!

Benvenuto Enzo ! :lol: Questo Forum è molto utile ed interessante per confrontarsi con altri giocatori, di qualsiasi livello, anche se purtroppo (inevitabilmente?) la partecipazione è piu' diversificata nella sezione in lingua inglese. :)

This depends on pship styles. Some like to preempt with bad suits because they can increase the frequency of the bid. Personaly I would not try this vs an unpassed pard No. To try to make this clearer: most times doubles with a good opener. A good opener promises about 2.5 defensive tricks. Here , especially sitting under the preemptor, we have no reason to expect to provide more than 2/3 tricks. Sure, we may expect to set the contract by 1 trick, but it will be very close, and doubling them into game is not a good strategy. As I have spades support, I'll bid my spades

Unless tactical considerations (e.g. trailing behind in a match), I pass at IMPS and take my sure plus. I could start a RKCB sequence to find out whether pard has the trump Q, but even in that case, that would need many other other factors to work (trumps 3-2, favourable lead, spade Ace onside). All in all, it seems to me the slam is not completely unlikely, but should be against odds.

[hv=d=s&v=b&n=sa8xxhkqxxdk42cxx&s=sqj9hxxdat653ckqx]133|200|Scoring: MP Bidding uncontested: 1D-1H-1NT-3NT West leads a small club (attitude lead, unknown length), East plays the J[/hv] What would be the "right timing" at MP and IMPS ? Thanks ! :blink:

I have a further question to add to the list. :blink: Suppose you have agreed to play Leaping Michaels over a weak 2, e.g. 4♣ would show 2 suiter clubs + hearts. If that was available, do you think North's hand has the required strength worth a NL Michaels call (lack of high cards might be compensated by extra shape) ?

Do you folks play 4NT as generic 2 suited takeout here ?

"Bridge is like dance: technique's important but what really matters is not to step on partner's feet" :blink:

The 9th trump is often worth 1.5 trick (Mike Lawrence) (that's why it's very important to discriminate 3 card raises from 4 card raises)

In-quick, out quick

Holding a 2-way tenace combination, finesse through the opponent you dislike most. (Klinger/Kambites, who add "We thought this was a cool suggestion, until someone of our club came asking 'I don't get why everybody keeps on finessing through me all the times'... ")

"Opening lead" by Tony Sowter. Much better than any other opening book I had read before: - Ewen's book - Blackwood's book - Lawrence's book (Opening leads) - Lebel's book (The killing lead) - other card play/defense books (e.g. Kantar books on defense, Mollo, Bil Root's books, Watson's play of the hand, etc etc) In particular, it is especially helpful the section designed to explain when to make an aggressive lead or a passive lead

Do you think it would be useful to insert a field that allows to specify whether a specific bid is exactly (or MIGHT be) a canapè ? Or is it enough to include it in the explanation text ?

"All is lost, except the honor"-French King Francis I, after underleading an Ace at suit contract

I'd like to make the following suggestions/wishes. Perhaps using Word macros allows different formatting too. If that is the case, I think it would increase the readability if: 1- the bids are indented 2- the bids are BOLDFACE font 3- the description of the bids (e.g. the alert explanations in FD) are in a different color, say BLUE 4- the bid-type field text (e.g. FORCING, NONFORCING, FORCING TO GAME, RELAY, PUPPET, ASKING BID, etc) is colored with a different color (say RED) 5- the "number of promised cards" field text is colore with a different color (say GREEN) In this way, the reader can , *at a glance*, differentiate the information type (bid, its description, what kind of bid it is, how many cards it promises)

"When a man with a king meets a man with an ace, the man with the king is a dead man" Clint Eastwood, A fistful of honors

Hi all, I have posted in the FD section of the forum, both the original 1M:2NT raise scheme (built for 1M openers in a traditionnal SAYC-ish or 2/1-ish context). I have modified the scheme to include it into a Precision framework (where other jumps in new suits are FSJ major raises). I will GREATLY appreciate suggestions for improvement of the scheme, thanks !! :-) You can find the FD scheme modified by me at: http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?act=ST&f=33&t=10387 In this scheme I try to discriminate: - distributional reverse hand types: 5-5.5 losers hands with 55+ or 64+. 55+ and 64+ have to be bid differently - good minimums (6-6.5 losers hands) with 55/64 shape - max hands with specifically a singleton - hands with voids (they'll start differently than hands with a singleton) - hopeless minimums (7+ losers) shall bid 3M regardless of having a side singleton or 55/64 shape =========================== Based on such premises the scheme becomes: 1S:2NT ...-3C = a) max hand with exactly a singleton or b ) 6-6.5 losers with 55/64. 3D is relay ask, 3S signoff offer ...-3D = GF, a) max with no shortness or b ) any hand with void. 3H is relay ask shortness ...-3H = GF, generic 64 hand, distributional reverse (5-5.5 losers). 3S asks sidesuit. ...-3S = any hopeless minimum. No further relays. If responder is slammish, serious NT + LTTC follows ...-3NT =55+ ♠♥, distributional reverse (5-5.5 losers) ...-4m=55+ ♠ + m, distributional reverse (5-5.5 losers)

*00{Scanian 1M:2NT Prec}=NYYYYYYThis version applies to limited 1M openers (10/11-15). \\Modified after: Lutsen B. Jansen & Gerwin van Eersel, The Netherlands 001HP2N=YNNYNNN5Usually 4+ trumps, invitaional hand or better (usually at least 9+/10 hcp) 001HP2NP3H=NNNYNNN008Minimum with no voids. Includes any other hopeless min (e.g. 55+/64 hands with 7+ losers) 001HP2NP3HP3S=NNNYNNNC08Asks shortness 001HP2NP3HP3SP3N=NNNYNNN0No shortness 001HP2NP3HP3SP4C=NNNYNNN011Singleton 001HP2NP3HP3SP4D=NNNYNNN008Singleton 001HP2NP3HP3SP4H=NNNYNNN008!s Singleton 001HP2NP3HP3N=NNNYNNN0!s cue 001HP2NP3HP4C=NNNYNNN008cue 001HP2NP3HP4D=NNNYNNN008cue (Last Train) 001HP2NP3HP4H=NNNYNNN108Signoff 001HP2NP3D=YNNYNNN608a) Max without shortness or \\:P any with void 001HP2NP3DP3H=NNNYNNN208Relay, asks void 001HP2NP3DP3HP3S=NNNYNNN008Void 001HP2NP3DP3HP3N=NNNYNNN0No void, max 001HP2NP3DP3HP4C=NNNYNNN008Void 001HP2NP3DP3HP4D=NNNYNNN008Void 001HP2NP3DP3S=YNNYNNN708General slam try 001HP2NP3DP3SP3N=YNNYNNN0No singleton 001HP2NP3DP3SP3NP4C=NNNYNNN001singleton !c 001HP2NP3DP3SP3NP4D=NNNYNNN008singleton !d 001HP2NP3DP3SP3NP4S=YNNYNNN708singleton !s with a slam try 001HP2NP3DP3SP3NP4H=NNNYNNN008No singleton 001HP2NP3DP3SP3NP5H=YNNYNNN708Strong Slam try without singleton 001HP2NP3DP3SP4C=YNNYNNN001Singleton !c 001HP2NP3DP3SP4D=YNNYNNN601Singleton !d 001HP2NP3DP3SP4H=YNNYNNN601Singleton !s 001HP2NP3DP4C=NNNYNNN658Good side suit 001HP2NP3DP4D=NNNYNNN658Good side suit 001HP2NP3DP3N=YNNYNNN6Good spades, (4+) 001HP2NP3DP4H=YNNYNNN108signoff 001HP2NP3N=YNNYNNN76+!h, 4+!s, 5-5.5 losers 001HP2NP4C=NNNYNNN75855+ hand, 5-5.5 losers 001HP2NP4D=NNNYNNN75855+ hand, 5-5.5 losers 001HP2NP3S=YNNYNNN0086+!h 4m hand, undisclosed 4c minor, 5-5.5 losers 001HP2NP3C=YNNYNNN608a) Max hand with singleton (no void) OR\\:D 6-6.5 losers hands with 55+/64+ 001HP2NP3CP3D=YNNYNNNC08Relay, asking to clarify 001HP2NP3CP3DP3H=YNNYNNN608Max +singleton 001HP2NP3CP3DP3HP3S=YNNYNNNC08Relay asks sing 001HP2NP3CP3DP3HP3SP3N=YNNYNNN0!s singleton 001HP2NP3CP3DP3HP3SP4C=YNNYNNN601Singleton !c 001HP2NP3CP3DP3HP3SP4D=YNNYNNN601Singleton !d 001HP2NP3CP3DP3HP3N=YNNYNNN6!s cue 001HP2NP3CP3DP3HP4C=YNNYNNN001cue 001HP2NP3CP3DP3HP4D=YNNYNNN001cue 001HP2NP3CP3DP3HP4H=NNNYNNN108Signoff 001HP2NP3CP3DP3S=YNNYNNN008Min, 6!h and side 4 m 001HP2NP3CP3DP3N=NNNYNNN0Min, 6+!h and side 4!s 001HP2NP3CP3DP4C=YNNYNNN008Min, 55+ 001HP2NP3CP3DP4D=YNNYNNN008Min, 55+ 001HP2NP3CP3H=YNNYNNN008Signoff 001HP2NP3CP3HP3S=YNNYNNNC08singleton ask 001HP2NP3CP3HP3SP3N=NNNYNNN0singleton oM 001HP2NP3CP3HP3SP4C=YNNYNNN601singleton !c 001HP2NP3CP3HP3SP4D=YNNYNNN601Singleton !d 001HP2NP3CP3HP3SP4H=NNNYNNN108Signoff 001HP2NP3CP3HP3N=YNNYNNN6shows singleton oM 001HP2NP3CP3HP4C=YNNYNNN701shows singleton !c 001HP2NP3CP3HP4D=YNNYNNN001shows singleton !d 001HP2NP3CP3HP4H=NNNYNNN108Signoff 001HP2NP3CP3S=YNNYNNN0086!h4m, slam try 001HP2NP3CP4C=NNNYNNN65855+ slam try 001HP2NP3CP4D=NNNYNNN65855+, slam try 001HP2NP3CP3N=NNNYNNN66!h4!s, slam try 001HP2NP3CP4H=NNNYNNN008Signoff 001SP2N=YNNNYNN5Limit raise or better, usually 4+ trumps 001SP2NP3C=NNNNYNN008a) Max hand with a singleton;\\B) 6-6.5 losers hands with extra shape (55/64) 001SP2NP3CP3D=NNNNYNNC08Relay 001SP2NP3CP3DP3H=NNNNYNN008Max +singleton 001SP2NP3CP3DP3HP3S=NNNNYNNC08Sing ask 001SP2NP3CP3DP3HP3N=NNNNYNN0sing !s 001SP2NP3CP3DP3HP4C=NNNNYNN008singleton 001SP2NP3CP3DP3HP4D=NNNNYNN008singleton 001SP2NP3CP3DP3S=NNNNYNN008Min 64 (generic 4 bagger) 001SP2NP3CP3DP3SP3N=NNNNYNNCAsks side suit 001SP2NP3CP3DP3SP3NP4C=NNNNYNN0084 bagger 001SP2NP3CP3DP3SP3NP4D=NNNNYNN0084 bagger 001SP2NP3CP3DP3SP3NP4H=NNNNYNN0084 bagger 001SP2NP3CP3DP3N=YNNNYNN055+ !s!h, min 001SP2NP3CP3DP4C=NNNNYNN00855+ !s!c, min 001SP2NP3CP3DP4D=NNNNYNN00855+ !s!d, min 001SP2NP3CP3H=YNNNYNN008Slam interest OR shortness 001SP2NP3CP3HP3S=NNNNYNNC08relay 001SP2NP3CP3HP3SP3N=YNNNYNN0shortness oM 001SP2NP3CP3HP3SP4C=YNNNYNN001shortness !c 001SP2NP3CP3HP3SP4D=YNNNYNN001shortness !d 001SP2NP3CP3HP3SP4S=NNNNYNN008No shortness 001SP2NP3CP3HP3N=YNNNYNN0shortness oM 001SP2NP3CP3HP4C=NNNNYNN001shortness !c 001SP2NP3CP3HP4D=NNNNYNN001shortness !d 001SP2NP3CP3HP4S=NNNNYNN108Signoff 001SP2NP3CP3S=YNNNYNN008No slam interest, no shortness 001SP2NP3CP3N=YNNNYNN0Good !h side suit (5+) 001SP2NP3CP4C=NNNNYNN658Good !c side suit (5+) 001SP2NP3CP4D=NNNNYNN658Good !d side suit (5+) 001SP2NP3D=YNNNYNN608GF with: a) Max without shortness\\B) Min/max with a void 001SP2NP3DP3H=YNNNYNNC08Relay 001SP2NP3DP3HP3S=YNNNYNN608no void, max bal 001SP2NP3DP3HP3SP3N=YNNNYNN6No Singleton 001SP2NP3DP3HP3SP4C=YNNNYNN601Singleton !c 001SP2NP3DP3HP3SP4D=YNNNYNN601Singleton !d 001SP2NP3DP3HP3SP4H=YNNNYNN001Singleton !h 001SP2NP3DP3HP3SP4S=NNNNYNN108Signoff 001SP2NP3DP3HP3N=YNNNYNN6void !h 001SP2NP3DP3HP4C=NNNNYNN011void !c 001SP2NP3DP3HP4D=YNNNYNN011void !d 001SP2NP3DP3S=NNNNYNN008General slam try 001SP2NP3DP3SP3N=NNNNYNN1To play 001SP2NP3DP3SP4C=YNNNYNN000Void 001SP2NP3DP3SP4D=YNNNYNN000Void 001SP2NP3DP3SP4H=YNNNYNN000Void 001SP2NP3DP4S=NNNNYNN108Signoff 001SP2NP3DP3N=YNNNYNN0Good side suit in hearts 001SP2NP3DP3NP4S=NNNNYNN008To play (may still have a void, but no slam interest) 001SP2NP3DP3NP4C=NNNNYNN000void, slam interest 001SP2NP3DP3NP4D=NNNNYNN008void, slam interest 001SP2NP3DP3NP4H=NNNNYNN008void, slam interest 001SP2NP3DP4C=NNNNYNN658Good side suit 001SP2NP3DP4D=NNNNYNN058Good side suit 001SP2NP3DP4H=NNNNYNN058 001SP2NP3H=NNNNYNN00864 shape or better, 5-5.5 losers 001SP2NP3HP3S=NNNNYNNC08Asks side suit 001SP2NP3HP3SP3N=NNNNYNN0side 4!h 001SP2NP3HP3SP4C=NNNNYNN008side 4!c 001SP2NP3HP3SP4D=NNNNYNN008side 4!d 001SP2NP3S=YNNNYNN208Minimum with no voids. Includes any other hopeless min (e.g. 55+/64 hands with 7+ losers) 001SP2NP3SP3N=NNNNYNNCserious NT 001SP2NP3N=YNNNYNN055+ !s!h, 5-5.5 losers 001SP2NP4C=NNNNYNN65855+ !s!c, 5-5.5 losers 001SP2NP4D=NNNNYNN00855+ !s!d, 5-5.5 losers

I like to do that only if clubs are good. If clubs are not good and a (14)35, I prefer to distort the hand: a. with a good 4 card major I'll open the major; pard shall bid assuming I have 5+M b. with a good 3 cards in diamond I'll open 1D; pard shall bid assuming diamns are 4+ c. with no decent suit and full opening values I'll open 1NT with a singleton Of course there are things that can backfire but I'll avoid opening 2C with a bad suit; also, bidding 3/4 card suits with concentration of honors is more likely to be lead-directing if opps buy the contract.

Agree. Playing precision with variable NT (10-12 NT and 14-16 NT), we decided to move to a constant 1NT range (12+/15), so that 1D would be always REAL asnd promise an unbalanced hand. This was a major improvement: the knowledge that 1D is unbalanced and has a real suit improves both constructive bidding (responder knows opener has shortness and a good ODR), as well as competitive bidding (more frequent partscore competition to 3D, pard can freely raise preemptively). In my opinion these issues apply to Polish club too. The only difference is that in Precision I'd open a 5332 with 5D as 1NT(unless great suit, concentrated values), whereas in polish club I would not want to open a minimum 5332 with 1D, because the 1C opener is already too much overloaded with hand-types.

*00{Scanian 1M:2NT}=NYYYYYYThis version applies to "natural" systems (no big club/diamond, e.g. 1M may still have up to about 20-21 hcp or so). \\Taken from Lutz and xxx 001HP2N=YNNYNNN5Usually 4+ trumps, invitaional hand or better (usually at least 9+/10 hcp) 001HP2NP3H=NNNYNNN008Bad minimum opener. 001HP2NP3D=YNNYNNN508Good minimum or void 001HP2NP3DP3H=NNNYNNN208limit raise, min opener may pass 001HP2NP3DP3S=YNNYNNN708General slam try 001HP2NP3DP3SP3N=YNNYNNN0No singleton 001HP2NP3DP3SP3NP4C=NNNYNNN001singleton !c 001HP2NP3DP3SP3NP4D=NNNYNNN008singleton !d 001HP2NP3DP3SP3NP4S=YNNYNNN708singleton !s with a slam try 001HP2NP3DP3SP3NP4H=NNNYNNN008No singleton 001HP2NP3DP3SP3NP5H=YNNYNNN708Strong Slam try without singleton 001HP2NP3DP3SP4C=YNNYNNN001Singleton !c 001HP2NP3DP3SP4D=YNNYNNN601Singleton !d 001HP2NP3DP3SP4H=YNNYNNN601Singleton !s 001HP2NP3DP4C=NNNYNNN658Good side suit 001HP2NP3DP4D=NNNYNNN658Good side suit 001HP2NP3DP3N=YNNYNNN6Good spades, (4+) 001HP2NP3DP4H=YNNYNNN108Good limit raise, signoff 001HP2NP3N=YNNYNNN7Good side suit in !s, non min. hand. Typically 6!H 4!S shape 001HP2NP4C=NNNYNNN758Natural, good side suit, non min. hand. 001HP2NP4D=NNNYNNN758Natural, good side suit, non min. hand. 001HP2NP3S=YNNYNNN008Semibalanced hand (usually 5332), 17+/18-19 hcp. 001HP2NP3C=YNNYNNN608Waiting bid, GF, usually 14+ or so. Denies:\\a. good side suit with non min hand\\b. semibal 18-19\\c. a void 001HP2NP3CP3D=YNNYNNN708Slam try without side suit 001HP2NP3CP3DP3H=YNNYNNN608No good 4 card side suit 001HP2NP3CP3DP3HP3S=YNNYNNN008No singleton 001HP2NP3CP3DP3HP3SP3N=YNNYNNN0No singleton 001HP2NP3CP3DP3HP3SP4C=YNNYNNN601Singleton !c 001HP2NP3CP3DP3HP3SP4D=YNNYNNN601Singleton !d 001HP2NP3CP3DP3HP3SP4H=YNNYNNN008Singleton oM 001HP2NP3CP3DP3HP3N=YNNYNNN6Singleton oM 001HP2NP3CP3DP3HP4C=YNNYNNN001Singleton !c 001HP2NP3CP3DP3HP4D=YNNYNNN001Singleton !d 001HP2NP3CP3DP3HP4H=NNNYNNN108Signoff 001HP2NP3CP3DP3S=YNNYNNN008singleton oM and 4 good m 001HP2NP3CP3DP3N=NNNYNNN0Doubleton oM and 4 good !c 001HP2NP3CP3DP4C=YNNYNNN008Doubleton oM and 4 good !d, !c control 001HP2NP3CP3DP4D=YNNYNNN008Doubleton oM and 4 good !c, NO !d control 001HP2NP3CP3DP4H=NNNYNNN0084 good oM 001HP2NP3CP3H=YNNYNNN008Slam interest OR singleton 001HP2NP3CP3HP3S=YNNYNNNC08singleton ask 001HP2NP3CP3HP3SP3N=NNNYNNN0singleton oM 001HP2NP3CP3HP3SP4C=YNNYNNN601singleton !c 001HP2NP3CP3HP3SP4D=YNNYNNN601Singleton !d 001HP2NP3CP3HP3SP4H=NNNYNNN108Signoff 001HP2NP3CP3HP3N=YNNYNNN6shows singleton oM 001HP2NP3CP3HP4C=YNNYNNN701shows singleton !c 001HP2NP3CP3HP4D=YNNYNNN001shows singleton !d 001HP2NP3CP3HP4H=NNNYNNN108Signoff 001HP2NP3CP3S=YNNYNNN008No slam interest, no singleton 001HP2NP3CP4C=NNNYNNN658Good side suit 001HP2NP3CP4D=NNNYNNN658Goid side suit 001HP2NP3CP3N=NNNYNNN6Good side suit in spades (usually 4+) 001SP2N=YNNNYNN5Limit raise or better, usually 4+ trumps 001SP2NP3C=NNNNYNN008Generic GF, usually 14+, denies:\\a. good side suit\\b (semi)bal 17-19\\c. a void 001SP2NP3CP3D=NNNNYNN008slam try, no good 5+ side suit 001SP2NP3CP3DP3H=NNNNYNN008no good 4 card suit 001SP2NP3CP3DP3S=NNNNYNN008sing oM and good 4 card minor 001SP2NP3CP3DP3N=YNNNYNN0doubleton oM, and good side !c 001SP2NP3CP3DP4C=NNNNYNN008doubleton oM, and good side !d, !c control 001SP2NP3CP3DP4D=NNNNYNN008doubleton oM, and good side !d, NO !c control 001SP2NP3CP3DP4H=NNNNYNN0084 good oM 001SP2NP3CP3H=YNNNYNN008Slam interest OR shortness 001SP2NP3CP3HP3S=NNNNYNNC08relay 001SP2NP3CP3HP3SP3N=YNNNYNN0shortness oM 001SP2NP3CP3HP3SP4C=YNNNYNN001shortness !c 001SP2NP3CP3HP3SP4D=YNNNYNN001shortness !d 001SP2NP3CP3HP3SP4S=NNNNYNN008No shortness 001SP2NP3CP3HP3N=YNNNYNN0shortness oM 001SP2NP3CP3HP4C=NNNNYNN001shortness !c 001SP2NP3CP3HP4D=NNNNYNN001shortness !d 001SP2NP3CP3HP4S=NNNNYNN108Signoff 001SP2NP3CP3S=YNNNYNN008No slam interest, no shortness 001SP2NP3CP3N=YNNNYNN0Good !h side suit (5+) 001SP2NP3CP4C=NNNNYNN658Good !c side suit (5+) 001SP2NP3CP4D=NNNNYNN658Good !d side suit (5+) 001SP2NP3D=YNNNYNN008Good minimum or any hand with a void 001SP2NP3DP3H=YNNNYNN708General slam try 001SP2NP3DP3HP3S=YNNNYNN608No singleton 001SP2NP3DP3HP3SP3N=YNNNYNN6No Singleton 001SP2NP3DP3HP3SP4C=YNNNYNN601Singleton !c 001SP2NP3DP3HP3SP4D=YNNNYNN601Singleton !d 001SP2NP3DP3HP3SP4H=YNNNYNN001Singleton !h 001SP2NP3DP3HP3SP4S=NNNNYNN108Signoff 001SP2NP3DP3HP3N=YNNNYNN6Singleton !h 001SP2NP3DP3HP4C=NNNNYNN011Singleton !c 001SP2NP3DP3HP4D=YNNNYNN011Singleton !d 001SP2NP3DP3S=NNNNYNN008Bad limit raise 001SP2NP3DP3SP3N=NNNNYNN1To play 001SP2NP3DP3SP4C=YNNNYNN000Void 001SP2NP3DP3SP4D=YNNNYNN000Void 001SP2NP3DP3SP4H=YNNNYNN000Void 001SP2NP3DP4S=NNNNYNN108Signoff 001SP2NP3DP3N=YNNNYNN0Signoff offer in spades (leaves room for void-showing) 001SP2NP3DP3NP4S=NNNNYNN008To play (may still have a void, but no slam interest) 001SP2NP3DP3NP4C=NNNNYNN000void, slam interest 001SP2NP3DP3NP4D=NNNNYNN008void, slam interest 001SP2NP3DP3NP4H=NNNNYNN008void, slam interest 001SP2NP3DP4C=NNNNYNN658Good side suit 001SP2NP3DP4D=NNNNYNN058Good side suit 001SP2NP3DP4H=NNNNYNN058Good side suit 001SP2NP3H=NNNNYNN008(Semi)bal, (17+)18-19 001SP2NP3S=YNNNYNN208Bad minimum 001SP2NP3N=YNNNYNN0Good 5+ side suit in !h 001SP2NP4C=NNNNYNN658Good 5+ side suit in !c 001SP2NP4D=NNNNYNN008Good 5+ side suit in !d

The 3♥ bid led to trouble. I know it's right on values, but it makes difficult for responder tounderstand opener's hand-type (from the actual bidding it would seem opener has a strong minor 2suiter). I would have bid 3♠, which might be an underbid BUT I think it should be GF , showing a natural reverse that forces to game opposite responder's neg X. 3 spades has the advantage to allow finding a strain early on. If pard bids 4 spades, then we can use exclusion BW to find if we belong in game/small/grand slam.

if pard is unpassed hand I'll open 1C and rebid 2c. If pard is a passed hand, I'll open 1NT.

Hand 1 has 2 features typical of suit oriented hands: 1) good suit 2) majority of honors are AK's Therefore I shall open 1C and reverse at a 2nd round -------------------- Hand 2 can instead be legitimately treated as a (semi)balanced hand, IMO, so I'll open 1NT

2 picche subito, per dare l'attacco al compagno. E' un rischio, ma siamo a mitchell, e potrebbe essere un rischio anche se il p attaccase in un colore "sfortunato". Abbiamo 5 perdenti nei colori laterali + 1 o 2 in atout. Se il compagno ci porta qualcosa, anche andare sotto di 1 presa contrati è probabilmente buono, a fronte di una manche probabile avversaria (anche in prima). Comunque anche passare potrebbe riverlarsi vincente: non si rischia di pagare l'anima in un parziale contrato, e non si danno informazioni al dichiarante su distribuzione e forza (e anche questo puo' essere un grosso vantaggio, ancora di + a mitchell) Invece dire 3 picche con queste carte sapendo che il rispondente è positivo equivale a un suicidio.