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I've read posts here and then took a look at the voting pattern, without voting and I won't vote. The subject matter itself didn't surprise me but the votes in absolute terms did. How do you know? doofik

Thank you for your responses and my question is, I guess, what kind of hand would produce a 2♥ response to 1♠ while having only a 3 card suit? And I do understand the 1-round force:-) doofik

Here's the hand: North ♠AK10x ♥5 ♦KJ10x ♣A8xx South ♠7xx ♥AQJ9x ♦A9xx ♣2 The bidding drives me nuts, or perhaps not the bidding, but the explanation.

Dear Ben, Thank you for your response. Now my question is, is there anywhere in the Blue Club system a response that would indicate 3+ hearts and be forcing for 1 round? That's the explanation I got and I'm just sooooooooooooooooo confused. Jola

Thanks Dwayne, your response is not quite what I had in mind:-)

I was playing against a pair who announced that they play Blue Club. And without showing you the hand, I would like to know the meaning of a certain sequence, The bidding is: 1♠-p-2♥-p-2NT-p-3NT Please explain to me the meaning of 2♥ as I'm totally lost. Thank you in advance, Jola P.S. 1♠ bid was made in first position.

Kenneth, Who cares whether this is a club for novices or advanced players? How many different interpretations are there to 1♣-p-2nt? It's either forcing or it's invitational. Regardless of the meaning of the bid, if it goes 1♣-1grapefruit - if an opp asks then he's entitled to a response. This thread is not about a club, this is about responsibility of players toward one another.

Well, Peter, come on over. You're more than welcomed. Having said that you also need not to pay any attention to jerks - that's what makes my world so much more pleasant B) Jola

"A basic law of human behavior I have observed: the higher the stakes, the worse some people act. Perhaps your experience is different?" Obviously my experience has been different or else we would not be having this discussion :) Jola

Peter, Are there less jerks on BBO just because there is no rating of players? Jola

Peter, I'd be curious to find out if the existence of appeal committees indeed increases the 'jerk' behavior. Jola

Peter, Since I can remember (and it's been a while ;) ) I've never been in a club where there were no appeals committees. Granted, those were ad hoc as the most tables we'd ever get is 25, but let me tell you, that committee was made up of the top players who today are at the top of their profession and who are very fair. The appeals committees are not there to reprimand jerks. They're there to ensure fairness. I don't understand why you'd say "thank goodness". The appeals committees deal with bidding and play, not behavior. Once you distinguish the two, the light will shine again :D Jola

What a tremendous match between women's teams from USA and Russia. Congratulations to Russian women :D USA team has nothing to be ashamed of either. And foremost, thank you BBO for giving us a real time event, as usual :rolleyes: Regards, Jola

Ben, As it is the tool to control your own table is already available. The only objection I have to it is that freezes the host while playing around with admittance or denying admittance. That does not bode well for the rest of the players nor should opps and partner be subjected to it. Freezes sometimes totally do away with my concentration, they also may get opps tired of it and they'll leave in search of a more 'speedy' action. So the way I see it, you don't need to give up your yellow status. All it takes, the way I see it, is to remove the 'freeze' from any action such as admitting players or kibs. Regards, Jola

Hrothgar, Every issue discussed on the forum can be approached the same way "who gives a rats ass..." Some issues are more important than others but everyone who starts a topic appears to care about that given issue. I don't quite understand what stumps you and what doesn't. Jola

"As a gracious host, I've opened a new table with permission for kibs required, which stops your game every 2 to 5 seconds and either you admit a kib or you might as well kiss the game or your concentration good bye. And your annoying kib wants in and I mean THE KIB WANTS IN. While you're playing with "admittance denied" your action at the table stops. Now your partner makes a dynamite lead that sets the contract, you're the only ones setting it. Opps aren't idiots, they can see that there's silence from you and now they leave. They don't have a clue that all of your pauses were consumed by this one kib, worse still, there's nothing you can say to make this situation better." Uday, if I may, remove the freeze when admitting players or kibs. That certainly will solve the problem imho. :) Jola

Earl, If I wrote any plainer what I'm after, you'd still take it to a side road. Perhaps my English is bad or I'm not thinking straight. Please keep to the point. Whether I'd exercise the right as a player remains to be seen, but what's certain is that I don't seem to have rights (yes, I know I'm a guest on BBO etc. this is preemptive so you won't even go there :) ) Jola

Earl, You're missing the point. The point is that I, as a player, have no rights to have a table with an unwanted kib. My options are: 1. admit him; 2. set up permission for kibs which really is a pain to the host; or 3. ban all kibs. And this scenario is just not quite fair to me as a player. Jola P.S. Oh, and I forgot about the run to yellows option :)

Indeed epeeist, you are missing something and I don't mean it to sound serious :) The problem that I am addressing concerns of unwanted kibs. This is not about any allegations of cheating as being a novice I'd not know someone's cheating if it hit me in the face. Besides, I find constant reminder that people cheat, a real turnoff. I'd rather live in lala land and imagine that people just play that great. Back to unwanted kibs. My issue is this: - a kib shows up at the table where you are playing that you just cannot stomach. The kib doesn't talk to you, but from your previous encounters you know what's happening at the gallery. You go on playing at the table and ... the beat goes on. That's the pacifist version and I'll try to present a picture of what I'm talking about: As a gracious host, I've opened a new table with permission for kibs required, which stops your game every 2 to 5 seconds and either you admit a kib or you might as well kiss the game or your concentration good bye. And your annoying kib wants in and I mean THE KIB WANTS IN. While you're playing with "admittance denied" your action at the table stops. Now your partner makes a dynamite lead that sets the contract, you're the only ones setting it. Opps aren't idiots, they can see that there's silence from you and now they leave. They don't have a clue that all of your pauses were consumed by this one kib, worse still, there's nothing you can say to make this situation better. So now you've learned your lesson and you set up a table and this time you don't have a permission required for kibs and your happy annoying kib is right back at your table. What is the recourse other than crying to a yellow? I understand the tourney settings, but this is my private table. I've put it together, I've gathered some friends and all I want to do is to have fun with them and with the kibs who are interacting with us. What is wrong with this picture? Jola

Thank you for all responses, they are illuminating. None of what I've said in my post even remotely indicated any suspicion of cheating, so please don't even go there. My annoyance with this person is on a personal level. So the way I understand it my choices are: don't play in tourneys with kibs, don't play at tables with kibs or accept this individual at my table. Did I get this right? Or I can call a yellow? Jillybean2 - I'll be the first to agree with you that through kibbing the game level improves, and probably, that person's also. I'm a novice, the individual is an expert, tell me what he's learning at my table? Uday - I feel that somewhere, somehow, players should have some rights. I'm not quite sure how to resolve it, but my feeling is that when you've got kibs who are ironic, who deride players then players should have a way of removing this kib without having to cry 'Mommy' to the yellows. Jola

Dear Dean, I appreciate your response, but my feeling is that it is unfair to the players. When you reserve seats, when you don't admit all kibs, your life as a player is hell. Why? Jola

I'm back to my pet peeve about unwanted kibs. There's a certain individual who goes from table to table and comments nonstop. I've been a kib with this person and I've seen it. Lo and behold, the individual appeared at my table. When requested to leave this individual did so. Not sure whether it was because I asked or because a director showed up as well. I still maintain that we should have some control over who kibs us. With best regards, Jola

Chamaco, 108xx, you'd lead the 8, 109xx, you'd lead the nine, J9xx, you'd lead the nine, J10xx, you'd lead the jack. Hope this helps. Jola

I've been indoctrinated into 2/4 leads a while back. xx - always lead small, Qxx lead second, Kxx - personally I prefer to lead low. When holding AKQxx the lead of Aor Q is asking for count and the lead of a king is asking for attitude. Or is vice versa:-) Anyway, that is subject to partnership agreement. Jola

I second the motion Free. We've all met players with callousses on their butts, huge number of master points and the ability to play not great. Certainly not commensurate with the number of points. But all that being said, players like to be ranked. Look at the proliferation of ranked sites. Jola