Can't sleep, so... anyway, playing to ruff two ♦ per billw55 is line 1, and works whenever both ♣ and ♦ are 4-3 or 3-4. You can survive 2-5 in ♣ if ♦ are 4-3 and you can also pick up ♥ K. You can probably always survive 5-2 ♦ as long as trumps don't break crazy, since you can ruff both ♦ high. Line 2 is to win in hand and finesse ♠ K. If wins, pitch ♦ on ♠ A, and finesse ♥ K. If that wins, you can repeat and pick up K 4th, but if it loses on the 2d round (good defense) you are in danger of an overruff after the defense cashes 2 ♦. If the ♠ finesse loses, you need 4-3 ♦ and no worse then K third of ♥ onside. Line 3, as Dellache says, is to win in hand then take the ruffing finesse in ♠. If not covered, probably best to pitch a ♦ and assuming LHO wins, you again need 4-3 ♦ plus pick up ♥ K. If the ♠ is covered, however, you are in great shape, needing pretty much only 3-2 trumps. Ruff and play low ♥ to Q. If someone wins, ruff 3d ♦ high in dummy, draw trumps, cross to dummy in ♣, and pitch losing ♦ on good ♠. If no one wins ♥ Q, cross to ♥ A, then to dummy in ♣, and pitch 2 or maybe 3 ♦ on good ♠. All 3 lines look very sensible to me, and would be grateful for any help figuring out which is most likely to succeed. thx :)