michel444

2C is not asking he tell he have 0-9 point and "overcaller" should pass with 5 cards club or bid his suit I dont not agree with your comment in "standart " 5 card major the biding will go 1♣ 1 ♠ pass pass ???? or do i missed someting ?

I see no reason why not bid 4 ♠ Spread link // http://www.users.on.net/~mabraham/systems/SPREAD/index.html / South see the 9+Heart fit of opponnet; He have 1♥ and his partner 0-3♥ as south the question is if 3♠ is enaught to make west pass again or does he have to bid 4♠ its hard to imagine North hand to make 4 ♠ if north is max he is balanced 5=2-3=2-3=2-3 or 4 432 - 4♠ 4 minor and 2-3 ♥ 2-3 in Om like ♠ AKJx ♥ xx ♦ KQJx ♣ xxx and even 3♠ just make

maybe i didnt grab the Laurel hardy complex as 1 Diamond is artificial showing Spade 1 spade will be a T/o with 3+cards in all other suit 1 heart wills show club and diamond 12+p and 1 NT and unspecified 5 cards (club diamond or Heart ) W/O a side cards of 4 12-15 p 2 club will show Diamond and heart 12+ p 2 heart a weak 6 cards less then 12p 2 spade 5+ heart and 4+m and weak (less then 12 point 2nt weak with 4-5 or 55 in minor(less then 12 p ) maybe the right bid is 2 diamond and not double

i like what you write there is the off shape double and t/o NT on a t/o NT u tell partner i have a splinter in the opening suit void or singlton so all the soft value in this suit are worth zero if he have 7+ point not including point in diamond he bid a 4 -5 cards major at level 2 and a 6 cards at level 3 2♣ is a negative answer showing 0-7 point in the free suit an off shape double promise 2+cards in openet suit and 14+ point with 5 spade and 7 point partner cant jump to 2 spade...with 6 spade to 3 spade

I love trouble for me its seem that first hand i make a splinter bid with 4♣ second hand look like opener opened 1♣ with a 1=4=4=4 distribution and just bid 4H third hand i will bid 3H

[hv=pc=n&w=skq72h2dqckq75432&d=e&v=0&b=14&a=1hp2cp3np]133|200[/hv] this is the hand East west are playing Sayc with a 15-17 NT (rarely with a 5 cards major 1♥ 5+♥ 11+point 2♣ 4+ ♣ 10+point forcing for 1 round 3 NT ??? what west should undestand from the 3NT rebid ? should he bid on? if yes what and why ?

IN Forcing pass system an opening of pass in first chair or in second chair -when dealer passed promise 14+point unbalanced or 15+p balanced without interference responder bid of 1 spade on FP is negative.. when North open 1 ♦ he limited his HCP in the 9-14 Point partner suport with 3 or more cards. w/o interference 1♠ is a G/T + (game try or better ) w/o acpecting spade as Trump 1♥ is a game forcing relay asking opener to describe his hand and can bring a very long sequence of biding all other response are limited and non forcing 3♠ is NOT a limit raise but as writen above show 4-5 card support of Spade

the secod hand 2 ♦ show 6+♦ 0-3 M 0-4 CLUB SOUTH DONT WANT TP PASS WITH Splinter ♦ bid 2 ♠ to prevent oponetto find ther heart fit north bid 3♥ to show a 3=3=6=1 or 3=3=7=0 Distribution [hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=2dp2sp3hp3sppp]133|100[/hv] East lead spade and contract go 2 down

[hv=pc=n&s=saq9hk632dj754cq2&w=st7652h7dq9ckj985&n=sk84hj95dkt6ca763&e=sj3haqt84da832ct4&d=e&v=0&b=14&a=1hp1sp2dp2sppp]399|300[/hv]this was first with good defense 2s is down 2

[hv=pc=n&s=sqt9842htd763caj4&w=sjhaj632dqtcq9532&n=sk753h8dakj9852c6&e=sa6hkq9754d4ckt87&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=p1d(4%2BSPADE%209-14%20HCP)d(L%26H%204%2BH%264%2BC%2012%2BP)3s(4-5%20%20SPADE)4hd(PARTNER%20BID%20ON)p4sppp]399|300[/hv] Doing research on Forcing pass system an defence that was the third time in row somone reach a spade contract West Play a "normal" 5 cards major system using a lot of unusual defense biding the complexity of biding after Fert opening ekren and transfer opening make me understand why FP system is no LEGAL . so west have a hand that is to weak to open in first chair north have an "average" opening with 4 cards ♠ the system use a Major Alwas First aproch so with 4♠ and 7♦ bid 1♦ to show his 4 cards♠ (range of point is 9-14) East who use a Laurel and hardy defence on 1 level opening double to show 4+♣ and 4+♥ and 0-2 ♦ and a minimum of 12 point south have to many spade his partner didnt mention answering with 6 cards supoort so bid 3 spade promising 4-5 cards ♠ West reavuleate his hand his 8 count are now 12-13 addig 3 point for Splinter spade and 2 more point for 5th club and 5th heart so bid 4H south Double proposing partner to bid 4 Spade East have no reason to bid on and pass north bid 4 ♠ west lead the ace of Heart and switch to spade 4+1 spade h

after a long time i didn't play real bridge with real people i am now playing in acol club i tried diferent system precision roman club 5 cards major and acol easy to admit i am a little xtremist 5 cards major is artificial you open a minor with 2-3+ cards suit you open 2c with a big hand 4 cards major is more natural more agressive fp and moscito are even morr aggressive but are to much stress to remeber all the response so for the time being i prefer ACOL but will be happy to play any variant of 4cards MAJOR michel

the Team of genius who write the program are novice player the Slam is resonable the club finess give yo asecond entry to ruff Diamond in dummy the spade distribution could be anything

thank you ! if i understand you corecetly I am supposed to pass the post in a diferent forum ? how am I supposed to do that? ask the moderator to move the post in the apropriate forum ? michel

1NT is wrong w/o doubt 1 ♥ does not promise 4+ cards but 3 cards and less then 8 point by "standart" method !! I don't like the double of 1 diamond but have a dilema to bid 1 H or 1S over the 1 D and more likely to bid 1 heart promising 3 Cards ♥ with 1+top honor partner must asumme 4+ ♥ in this case he will pass and west will play a happy contract of 2 ♦ I am not sugesting for other to do the same .

North may have a 9-12 HPC balance with no 4 cards Major

i edited my post

the real sequence East pass South open 1♥ Fert promising 13 cards (0-8 HCP) West bid 1♠ to show 4+♠ 0-3 ♥ and 12+ HCP North bid 1 NT to show a balanced hand of 14-17 HCP in hope that partner have a long suit East pass he have nothing to propose and 5 HCP with Quack South pass and East decide to pass

there real sequence East South West North Spade ♠ J 62 A T 3 Q 987 K 54 Heart ♥ Q J 43 965 K T A 872 Diamond ♦ 72 943 A K J T 65 Q 8 Club ♣ Q 876 J 542 9 A K T3 Bid P 1 H 1S 1NT Meaning F 4+S balanced Point 0-8 12+ 14-17 Note copying table diint work

SPREAD IS NOT MY SYSTEM I am making some research on the system and defense againts it my knowledge on the system come from a book on the net Spread link // http://www.users.on.net/~mabraham/systems/SPREAD/index.html / the book notes on interference are confusing !!! I was playing on tournament trying diferent system of biding with Partner who are friend . and only after years i found out that interference are the real problem . the defense biding was also a bit of a problem . for the pure fun i was making a "sike" overcall sometime it worked somtime it backfire. after discovering Rubensol my partner and me were able to go to slam after interference over 1 NT 1 NT 2X 3♦ pass 4♥ pass 4NT pass ??/ pass 6♥ and made it

THANK yOU !

[hv=pc=n&e=shakj75dk432c6532&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=1dp2n]133|200[/hv] 1♦ 4+♠ 0-3 ♥ 9-14 HCP (PART OF LIMITED OPENING IN SPREAD ) 2NT an unspecified mini Splinter 4+♠ inviting game (partner may ask with 3♣ bid 3 or 4♠ do you enter the auction? both side are Vulnerable risk of penalities Double is low opener Double in first oportunity invite partner to bid on and may have 0 Heart your partner mqy have some point . BTW over a 1 spade opening on second chair i would bid 1NT T/O with SPL Spade pass if partner bid 2 of a minor suit support heart if he bid 2 or 3 Heart

[hv=pc=n&w=sq987hktdakjt65c9&d=e&v=0&b=14&a=pp1ddp1h]133|200[/hv] the double is an off shape double promising 2+cards in Diamond and 14+ HCP 1♥ is Herbert negative promising 0-6(7) HPC any shape what message you get from both pass of partner ? what is your rebid ?

robot are funny whatever is bid over 1 heart is speculation and no matter what is the bid you go to blackwood the probality of finding that AK of club are misiing exist but with "standard " 5 cards major" i see no other option

I am a troll but i am no troling my basic aproch to biding is first and second chair can be light you dont do this with stranger the basic structure off second chair defense is pass very bad hand double 2+ cards in opening suit 14+ HPC any shape overcall 1 Major 4+cards suit with at least 1 top honor 4+trick NV 5+ trick Vul may have a longer minor 2 ♦ over a minor opening a good 6+ Major around 6-7 loser 2♥ over a minor 4+♥ and 5+ ♠ around 6-7 loser 2♠ over a minor 5+♠ 8 loser NV 7 loser vul can be a bad suit with no defense in other suit 2 NT strong 2 suiter with less then 5 loser every suit is 5+ long over Major opening 1NT over major opening SPL in there major 14+point including the void or singleton 2 of suit in general a 5+ cards suit with at least 1 top honor not good for double or t/o NT 2 of there major a strong minor 6+ long 6- loser 2 spade over 1 heart a Good 6+ cards Spade suit 6 loser 2 NT strong 2 suiter with less then 5 loser every suit is 5+ long (not 5 in there Major ) 3 minor over 1 Major 5+ cards in minor and 5+ in other Major 5-6 loser (stronger hand bid 2NT) that not all but most of it

DONT acronym for Disturb Oponet No Trump very aggressive defense to strong opening can be do i second chair or four chair in second chair Double a 6+cards suit 2♣ 4+ cards ♣ and another suit of 4+ 2 ♦ 4+ cards♦ and a 4+ cards Major / 2♥ bothh major 4+ ♥and 4+ ♠ 2 ♠ a bad 6+ cards spade (8 or more loser ) I remember a system base on DONT the 1♣ 1♦♥ have a strange range 0-10 or 16+ HCP the 11-15 range is the same bid as the defense to strong NT . 1 NT opening show a 5 cards (♣,♦,♥ and the HCP is 11-15 2♣ 4+ cards ♣ and another suit of 4+ 11-15 HCP / 2 ♦ 4+ cards♦ and a 4+ cards Major 11-15 HCP / 2♥ bothh major 4+ ♥and 4+ ♠ 11-15 HCP / 2♠ 5 cards♠ 11-15 point / that what i can remember if anyone see something about this will be thankfull Michel