apollo1201

Is 3♠ fitted (i.e. 3+ cards? In France, I used to play this fitted, in which situation, 4♣ comes as a 2-suited try for slam (i.e. opener should upgrade small ♣ honors and just tear off the red ones to be able to cooperate). Indeed, if I wanted to start cuebidding, I would bid 3NT, which cannot be for play since opener agreed a fit. If we don't know whether 3♠ is fitted or not, I would tend to think 4♣ can be natural or kind of cue/try. Anyway, going past 3NT w/o any known fit supposes a non-minimal hand. With Kxxxx x Qxx xxxx I would just bid 3NT. dICKIE, I hope this will help and you'll find it useful. Anyway, discuss it with your partner, as whatever you play, you need to be on the same wavelength!