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If a dane will do I will be ready on BBO. Claus Sønderkøge 7990 Øster Assels, Mors csdenmark@gmail.com www.bridgefiles.net SKYPE: csdenmark

Quadri Italia and Quadri Livorno/Leghorn Diamond will both be OK. I am not interested in your private diamond system. Claus Sønderkøge 7990 Øster Assels, Mors csdenmark@gmail.com www.bridgefiles.net SKYPE: csdenmark

I am ready any time. I use 'csdenmark' Claus Sønderkøge 7990 Øster Assels, Mors csdenmark@gmail.com www.bridgefiles.net SKYPE: csdenmark

No I have not considered that. I hide the taskbar only when I have some problems and only temporarly. Fred informed of my solution, F11 button which gives exactly what I think is needed, full screen. I will make no more comments in this thread - looks like it will be appreciated.

1) Use the yellow "play bridge now" link on www.bridgebase.com to access the web-client. This will cause the web-client to appear in a popup window without all the browser controls at at the top of the window that you see. No Fred my IE is set to open all in a new TAB. I use that setting for RSS-info. My own web-sites which aut. ought to open in a new and frameless window also opens in this way. Annoying but nobody but myself know of that. 3) I have no idea why you think it is a good idea to make the Windows taskbar My taskbar is my control center. To have a high one is very much better than to accept windows collapses which is the only real alternative. 4) Try hitting F11, especially if you are unwilling to follow my advice in 3). Didnt know anything of that but it works exactly as I want it to do. I think you should provide that info on the site - then you would have solved the problems you addressed and which was the reason for me to post. 5) If your eyes can handle it, increase your screen resolution. I run standard 1024/768 as I remember. I have no intension to change that. That is standard for PC but the flash version must be for something else than PC. As I mentioned tablet PC(7""), mobile phones(2"") and TV(16:9)

Here a screenshot. I have also mailed it for you. Normally I have an extra toolbar for translations occupying 2 lines more. Until machine translation will be better into danish I translate to english so that toolbar is not here. http://www.bridgefiles.net/cs5.ht1.jpg

Fred I tried again - it is of course filling my browser window. But that window has no option to be more than half of screen. I have other things to do on this computer than playing bridge. Therefore I use half of the screen for navigation and control. I wonder what the idea is. I doubt it will work on tablet PCs, mobile phones etc. The problem with broad screen for TV 16:9 has neither been addressed. Fred from your comments a few days ago about FDcc I think we will not agree on the matter. We dont need to - it is your business and not mine. I only responded to this thread because you asked for a feedback about space problems. I think they will be unable to handle your way. I use the windows version so I am not affected.

Maybe so. I can start it in an alternative browser ripped for all the ordinary stuff. And I can hide my taskbar. All rather complicated but can be managed with some trial and error. Then what is the flash version in browser window about? It is a mistake if it is as have have read long ago, to please computer analphabets who are unable to make downloads. The flash version is a future conscept aimed to replace the bridge we today play in local clubs and in tournaments, F2F-bridge. If BBO can only work on 1/2 of my screen I intend never to use it. I use 1/2 of my computer screen for navigation and control. It must work this way as you can see on this brand new web-site from Danmarks Radio: http://www.dr.dk/tv/live#/DR%20Update It is based on Adobe Player. An alternative might be something like CCTV: http://zhibo.cctv.com/live_h/index.shtml

I logged into the web-version first time. Might be why it looked unfamiliar. I wonder why 1/3 of my screen is used for something which have no interest of when playing bridge. I think of ordinary browser heading with several toolbars. If you have problems to find room for features I wonder why there are no button to switch into full-screen-mode as used for videos.

Yes playing online people jump from a polish regulated tournament to a chinese regulated one ending up playing an american based regulated. Re-iterating the problem is not so funny. Please come up with a proposal for a solution to it. Looks like you think the alert rule still makes sense so it must be able to respond to the challenge of today.

Is alert color possible? What color is being used? When the bridge game started there were no alert procedures and rules. These are introduced to help the opponents who can stay alert. This is the bad rule invented. Another argument at the table, People start advising when I should alert and when I should not. If explanation is given, I still don't see the reason for secondary alert. It is not so complicated to modify the application to display certain bids in different colors. Could be a checkbox. The problem here is there are different alert rules in Australia, Poland, Denmark, England, USA, Turkey etc. FD will alert in the same way to all opponents and that will be correct for some and misinformation for others. Well then code all bridgelaws from all over the world into FD. That will be the heaviest application on internet ever seen. The rules are outdated, thats the problem. Rules knows boundaries - internet knows nothing about such ones. In bridge rules the global village is unknown. In Denmark bridge players are assumed to be members of Danmarks Bridgeforbund and will therefore apply to those laws. On internet players will be members of no association or their countrys association. Either they will apply to different set of rules or no rules at all. Very difficult to handle for FD. The best way is of course simply to display the meaning of all bids. In ancient world this was of course the intension but without computers there were no such option. Instead alert procedure was invented to highlight important bids. Now we have the option to be fair to all and then thats the problem.

According to which rules should a bid be highlighted?

This is were your logic leaves me cold. Bridge players are a community I am certain that respected authors and tournament directors disagree with every word you say, although there is some merit in your attack on lawmakers, we have no alternative but to obey these laws, correctly and justly enforced by TDs. This creates a level playing field for all Otherwise it simply isn't cricket, old boy Tony Sorry Tony I thought community was the correct word. I looked it up now by Google Translations and I receive "Forening(danish) -> Association" What I have named community is therefore 'association'. I think of ACBL, English Bridge Federation, Danmarks Bridge Union. Those have laws, those have lawmakers. Thats those I attack. There are no laws outside associations(hope we can agree that we both understand the same now by the word 'association') A loose group of persons have no rules.

Fred those who disagree with me here, and this is not the first time people are doing so, I have really tried not to insult, namecalling or anything bad as far I understand your language. I think they live in an ancient world most of us know best from a bad history of wars and economic hardship. Regarding bridge there were not much substance. Therefore rules were simple and mattered very little. Today it is all much more complex but the rules are basically the same ones. I am not the only one who think as have explained. But even if I was that prove not I am wrong. A majority proves nothing else than they are the most persons. Sometimes such matters much sometimes it matters very little, but it proves nothing about correctness. You cannot wote the length of 1 meter. Everything has to start somewhere. Online bridge is after 10 years still a minority but that says nothing about whether it is the future and it is the right way. To me it makes no sense to refer to rules which have no authority. Rules are only binding prescriptions to members of a community. Outside the community there are no such rules. There are only the minimum set of rules constituting the game, I call those family bridge. Bridge rules are not a priori rules. I dont think I need to comment your position about serious bridge. I disagree as I have explained earlier and I will be ready to elaborate about that if you will be interested.

You really think so. I am getting upset by all those fools advertising for tax-havens which have caused so much damage to humanity. Gibraltar is just one of those. All those who think they can have fun advertising for dictatorships, poverty or tax-havens are disgustable persons.

No the vast majority don't care. They play simple bridge if bridge at all. You are right Tony they don't expect to see anything and in fact they don't need the information. Where it is needed there are other ways and it is exactly here the regulations are completely outdated. They stay in late 1920's. That you find such relevant I think looks like a sad fact.

I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree. I don't want a pop-up telling me what my partner's bid means. IMHO, much of the fun of the game is in trying to work things like this out. Is that 4♣ Gerber or natural? Are transfers on in a particular competitive auction? Was that bid forcing? Are we playing Drury? Certainly we dont need to agree. As it is now on BBO we both have the freedom to choose our ways. You may use the old style convention card and I use FD. I like it to be that way and and I want regulations to discover that this is modern world. Are we playing Drury? Yes this could be important, especially whether we play Drury or reverse Drury and which is what. I doubt many are quite sure about that. But it is fact not here the problems are. The problems are deeper, in the continuations. It is in the continuations the mess comes and the only ways to avoid such problems are to play simple or make a lot of mistakes. To me it makes no difference which way FD displays. I use my notes invisible to you.

No I dont think so. I think time is long overdue to be realistic. The rule about skills of remembering has lead to simple and unsolid bridge. Maybe professionels who can devote their whole life for such crab can do the trick. Ordinary persons who needs to care about their daily life, and especially need to use their ability to remember for their job dont have the option to play interesting bridge using your axiom. The rule about remembering is therefore in important part, maybe the most important, for why bridge is becoming still more unattractive. The lawmakers have tried to deal with the problem by several kind of rules, midchart and brownsticker are just some examples. This has caused a mess about regulation which many suffers from. The only one who dont suffer are those who just play family bridge, and thats approxmately 80-90% of the players. The rule dates back to the time when there was not so much to remember. The conventions were not yet invented and bridge was only marginally more complex than whist. Whether the rule by that time made sense or not I dont know. But I think it made very little difference then. Today it makes a huge difference and the argument is nowadays mostly used to try to legitimate lazy and unsolid behavior.

But BBO is under no such limitation Therefore BBO has decided to comply with modern standards for information technology. There's no reason why FD has to display its meanings to all the players, it was a decision made by Fred And good so, Fred is a man who can brainwork

You can think of no better way contacting your neighbours than advertising worldwide?

Doesn't matter Bob. Only for game MAJORs are superior. 5-3 and even 5-2 minors will better for a partscore than looking at a higher level for 4-4 majors. This means if you introduce your second suit you will be looking for game.

That is exactly the meaning. It is a poor habit only to be interested in what others are doing when you assume they might be harmful to you. To be curious is an important part of life. All who have done their homework carefully have noticed how features are working for themselves and therefore they know.

I think there's a pop-up on the screen that says "NS are using a new convention card". I'm not totally sure about this, but I think "new" means FD. However, I admit that this meaning is not likely to be obvious to the opponents. It is correct - they receive the message as you describe. If they dont understand the meaning of the message - they certainly have a problem. It is ridiculous to blame those doing their homework for faults by others only to be lazy and all too much used to play non-serious bridge.

I will allow my BBO Forum signature to answer on my behalf :unsure: Sorry Tony I think I am too old to be able to understand Pink Floyds cryptical message.

And what to learn from that Tony? Looks like they need a team captain who understand the world of today.