Hi All, I'm trying to get North to open a minor and South to have a 4/5 card minor fit and 5 of another suit in the 9-12 hcp range. Here is my attempt which is not working correctly. Please help, J. # minor openers with fit bid Nopen = shape(north, any 00xx + any 01xx + any 02xx + any 03xx + any 04xx + any 10xx + any 11xx + any 12xx + any 13xx + any 14xx + any 20xx + any 21xx + any 22xx + any 23xx + any 24xx + any 30xx + any 31xx + any 32xx + any 33xx + any 34xx + any 40xx + any 41xx + any 42xx + any 43xx + any 44xx) and losers(north) < 8 and hcp(north) > 10 and hcp(north) < 20 hcp(south) > 8 and hcp(south) < 14 Dopen = ( (diamonds(north) >= clubs(north) ) and ((shape(south, any 5x4x) and quality(south, spades) > 3) or (shape(south, any x54x) and quality(south, hearts) > 3) or (shape(south, any xx45) and quality(south, clubs) > 3) or (shape(south, any 5x5x) and quality(south, spades) > 3) or (shape(south, any x55x) and quality(south, hearts) > 3) or (shape(south, any xx55) and quality(south, clubs) > 3) ) ) Copen = ( (clubs(north) > diamonds(north) ) and ((shape(south, any 5xx4) and quality(south, spades) > 3) or (shape(south, any x5x4) and quality(south, hearts) > 3) or (shape(south, any xx54) and quality(south, diamonds) > 3) or (shape(south, any 5xx5) and quality(south, spades) > 3) or (shape(south, any x5x5) and quality(south, hearts) > 3) or (shape(south, any xx55) and quality(south, diamonds) > 3) ) ) Nopen and (Dopen or Copen)