Thank you all for responding to my post. I appreciate your thoughtful answers. I actually bid 6 spades at the table. I don't really think that was right. Maybe makes me a pesismist (how to spell?). I assumed my opps would make the optimal bid. Not the best analysis at an acbl game. I now think pass would have been the best bid (not maybe the "right" bid, but best). What I was thinking at the time was I would not pass over a 5 level red bid, so instead of giving fielders choice over my 5 spade bid (which I would have made), I should bid to my max level right away (would I have passed a six level red bid?). So then I thought maybe a six level club bid would have been best, to keep the sluff and ruff from happening......down less than their game undoubled (if doubled I run to six spades). So I think if I am going to bid 6 spades I should bid 6 clubs first. So I made two mistakes.....not passing and not bidding 6 clubs if I am going to bid 6 spades. So now I second guess again (lol). Maybe 5 clubs is better so we might set a red slam.....breaks up an end play....then I can bid 5 spades over their red suit 5 level. And hope to beat their 6 level contract. But thank you again for responding. I am still not 100% sure as to the right bid. But I wish I had passed.