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A hand with * short hearts (ideally 1 or 2, never 3) * tolerance for all unbid suits unless Advancer is able to bid again * a few points, so that 2♥X can likely be defeated if partner passes for penalties. The hope is to be able to compete as effectively as possible in accordance with LoTT.

Does your penalty X of 2♥ show a different set of hands than the final pass in (1♥)-1N-(P)-P (2♥)-P-(P)-X* (P)-P * takeout by someone using the same X of 2♥ as takeout instead? If not, aren't you wasting a call as well?

How?

Most people who play penalty doubles here just don't understand how takeout doubles work, i.e. that instead of (1♥)-1N-(P)-P (2♥)-X*-(P)-P (P) * penalties the bidding might go (1♥)-1N-(P)-P (2♥)-P*-(P)-X** (P)-P***-(P). * unsuitable for a takeout double, so usually 3+ H ** takeout double *** penalty pass Maybe the word 'takeout' is to blame, since it suggests that passing for penalties would be unusual? (In Norway we use the word 'opplysende', which means 'enlightening', instead.)

Asptro responses to a "quasi-balanced" 1N opening was one of my suggestions in this thread.

Agree, and the J happened to be from a known 4-card suit. -------- Today I played a board where I 1) doubled 6♣ for the lead; 2) encouraged when the ace was played from dummy on partner's club lead; and 3) followed with the 3 from J63 on the first round of trumps (= suit preference for clubs if anything). So I managed to signal clubs three times on the same board --- the first time already in the bidding.

The following almost happened against a spade contract the other day: 1. ♥A-(♥3)-♥J*-(♥9) 2. ♣A-(♣5)-♣3**-(♣6) * easily read as discouraging both a heart continuation and the "obvious shift" to a diamond, so effectively a suit preference signal for clubs ** easily read as encouraging Why like clubs twice here?

If a defender uses cards in one suit to signal for a different suit (as when giving suit preference), how does/should that affect the meaning of the cards he later plays in the signalled for suit?

In my corner of the multiverse: [hv=pc=n&s=sjt3hkjtdq9863cj2&w=sk4hq83dkjt4ck973&n=sq9652ha754d7ca84&e=sa87h962da52cqt65&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1s(10-21, 5+ S, unbalanced)p2s(constructive)dp3cppp]399|300[/hv]

I'll be less cryptic this time. Why bid 6♥ over 5♦ with a trump suit 1+ trick better than ♥AKQxxx? Because 5N isn't available?

The auction?

1♣-1♠; 2♥-2N; 3♥-4♣; 4♦-4♠; 5♣-5♦; 5N = ?

A GiB 1♣ opening: ♠QJ2 ♥QJ2 ♦QJ2 ♣QJ32.

From the Gucci Lebensohl - Fast and Slow thread: So Liggins Gerber has something to do with 4♣ showing the unbid major in some situations? (Which?) From the Do pre-empts work? thread: But if this is only "loosely" based on Liggins Gerber, what is Liggins Gerber exactly?

The hand may look like it should have been posted in the Boring Bridge Hands forum, but (hint:)

1♠-(P)-1N-(2♥); P-(P)-?: P = "No suitable call --- 3- ♠; 6+ HCP; 11- total points" X = "1- ♠; 10+ HCP; biddable ♥; 12- total points" 2♠ = "2-3 ♠; 6+ HCP; 11- total points" 2N = "Invitational to 3NT game --- 3- ♠; 12+ HCP; 12- total points; stop in ♥" 3♣ = "6+ ♣; 2- ♠; 9-11 total points" 3♦ = "6+ ♦; 2- ♠; 9-11 total points" 3♥ = "3- ♠; 9-12 total points" 3♠ = "Limit major raise --- 3 ♠; 10-12 total points" 3N = "5- ♥; 3- ♠; 12+ HCP; 12- total points; likely stop in ♥" (...) Pick your poison.

I've seen a couple of references to Liggins Gerber on BBF, but what does the full convention look like?

Unfortunately, 1♠-(P)-1N-(2♥); X = "5+ ♠; 15-21 HCP; biddable ♥; 22- total points", which is totally unplayable. Has a human come up with that explanation or is it somehow auto-generated?

I sat South and led something that looked fairly normal but cost a trick. It was only hours later, after a nap, that I realised what I should have led, and why.

Matchpoints. [hv=pc=s&s=SJT3HKJTDQ9863CJ2&d=n&v=o&b=1&a=1S(10-21, 5+ S, unbalanced)P2S(constructive)DP3CPPP]133|200[/hv]

Qxxxx Jxx x xxxx Partner: 1♦ You: ? Suppose you respond 1♠. Partner: 2♥ You: ?

A little science: http://bridge.thomasoandrews.com/evaluator/

My selective memory suggests that it's ok not being able to play 3N when one hand is (6430).