Hi all Nobody mentioned what I think to be the most important reason to play mini and weak NTs, they are just too darn fun!!! Not only do you end up in a different contracts then everyone else, your opponents do crazy things over them. They tend to make for better stories in the postmortem. On a more serious note, mini - weak NTs seem slightly more random in the results, as some other poster have pointed out. I wonder if people thing that different NT rangers play better depending on the field that you are playing in. For example; if one is in the middle 3rd of playing strength at the club, the mini NT (10-13) would give one the edge over the weak players, since they have less experience playing against it. Against the strong players, the odds are against you if you play strait up, so the mini might make some swings. If you are the best player in the room, stay away from mini, since swings will tend to hurt you. Maybe this is similiar to preempting style. Thoughts? Brian