Phil352

RHO ruffed 3rd diamond small, you can overruff with the 5. no honours appear if you now cash A♥. I played as follows: club towards Q, won the spade return and cashed KD pitching my spade. ruffed a spade, cashed KC and ruffed a club. QD(ruff)overruff and now i tried to play a 4th club. I thought this would succeed if LHO ruffed with the K or couldn't ruff higher than the 10. If he ruffs with the J I fall back on playing either opp for Kx of hearts. However this didn;t work as there was Jx on my left and Kxx on my right.

[hv=pc=n&s=s42haq875dack8643&n=saj53ht63dkqt94cq]133|200[/hv] After a slightly optimistic auction you end up in 5♥ and get a diamond lead. What's your chosen line? Jx of diamonds will appear on your right after 2 rounds of diamonds. If you play a club towards the Q at trick 2 the Ace pops on left and a spade return follows.

Personally I think by the time you're discarding diamonds the discard no longer gives attitude but should be count. You've already discouraged spades and presumably gave count on the play of the heart. Pitching a small diamond here would be a count signal to my mind. P.S. Would have been easier to follow if you'd shown us dummy too.

Thanks for these thoughts. I've previously played Lucas 2s but am more intrigued by the ability to distinguish between good and bad weak 2s. I found a system card from Zia-Rosenberg (2007) with these as their 2D-S bids. Their 2M opener can include 4oM which can be found using their enquiry bid. However they only played the poor/destructive 2M part of the multi at green, resorting to a constructive 2M option of their multi when vul. Has anyone else any experience of being burned for opening a disclosed destructive weak 2 through the multi?

I'm looking for any information on systems with the following 2 level opener structure: 2♣: traditional "GF", or a weak 2 in diamonds 2♦: Multi (either incorporating a strong option or just as destructive weak 2 in a major) 2♥/♠: Constructive weak 2s I know this structure is quite unusual but I think it's becoming more commonly used, especially in Europe. Does anyone have any experience playing this or knowledge of any documents detailing systems over this? In particular I'm interested in: Can 2♣ 2♦ 2NT be passed (ie 2NT = 23-24 balanced?)? What are the borderlines for constructive/destructive weak 2 options in different seats and vulnerabilities. Are these based purely on point count/shape? or is losing trick count a better guide? What was the upper limit of a constructive weak 2? I played recently vs a pair who played 11-13!