Echognome Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 [hv=d=n&v=b&s=s54ha106543dk84cq7]133|100|Scoring: IMP2♥(1) - (P) - ?[/hv] (1) Roughly 5-9 hcp, 5 hearts and a 4 card minor. You are playing against good opponents. Blasting or trying to deceive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 [hv=d=n&v=b&s=s54ha106543dk84cq7]133|100|Scoring: IMP2♥(1) - (P) - ?[/hv] (1) Roughly 5-9 hcp, 5 hearts and a 4 card minor. You are playing against good opponents. Blasting or trying to deceive? 5h, expect to go for -500.If partner is 5422 or/and has less than 8 working hcp..drop this style.Good hand to see if this system is worth anything or a piece of sh*t.Not good enough player to psyche 2s, leave that to others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 2S. If they X it's t/o so has a reasonable chance of working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 4♥. While the psyche here has a decent chance of working, it is too disaster prone for my liking. Probably a sign of advancing age :) Second choice 2♠ It is by no means clear that either opp will have a bid over 4♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 I'll give 2NT a whirl. What would it mean, BTW? Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 I rest my case..we play a system where everyone comes up with a funny bid...not the the 11 card heart fit bid weak. Great system...bid funny every hand. Funniest of goofiest bids wins.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 How about a psychic 3NT? LHO would have to have guts to bid 4S now :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 4H. Lets see, if they find a bid, I can bid 5H later.If they have a bid over 4H, they will have also a bid over a direct 5H. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 If they have a bid over 4H, they will have also a bid over a direct 5H. I disagree with this. I might try 3NT, but if I'm playing down the line, then it's 5♥ for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 I'll psyche 3♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 2S. If they X it's t/o so has a reasonable chance of working. It stops being t/owhen partner raises to 3 or 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 If partner raises to 3 then I'll bid 4H. I don't know what a 4S bid by partner would mean or if it would ever exist...if he has spades, hearts, and a minor he should splinter. Even if he happens to bid 4S, 5H is where others are bidding already so its not a disaster to get there. If LHO has A LOT of spades, he can bid 3S(or 4S) natural over a 2S bid, but if he happens to have just 5 or a weak 6 bagger or something, he may easily get stuck and then caught in the subterfuge later. I think this psyche has a reasonable chance of success, even against good players, and I don't think it is highly disaster prone at all. Perhaps I am underestimating the risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Since you intend to bid 4H, and you do have some chance of making, a nice 2NT and when he shows bad hand bad suit a quiet 3H......they may both have 11-12 and neither may force the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted September 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 [hv=d=n&v=b&n=s92hqj982d2ckj953&w=skqjt86hdat63ca62&e=sa73hk7dqj975ct84&s=s54hat6543dk84cq7]399|300|Scoring: IMP2♥(1) - (P) - 2♠! - (X!)P - (3NT!) - P - (4♠)All Pass[/hv] I chose the subterfuge of 2♠. West decided to double. Maybe they play this as meaning spades, but it wasn't alerted. East jumped to 3NT and that gave West the impetus to bid 4♠. I decided that once I chose to psyche 2♠ there was no point in bidding 5♥ afterwards. Turns out it would have been a profitable sacrifice. Of course, they can also make 5♠, so who knows if it would have mattered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 You also risk pushing them into slam if you save in 5H. I like your decision. I'm guessing your opponents were pretty weak since your LHO had an easy 3S bid and X isn't penalty where I come from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 It seems reasonable to me for double of 2♠ to be penalties here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 2S. If they X it's t/o so has a reasonable chance of working. We play a x of 2♠ here as penalty, but sort of balanced. I'm sure this isn't standard, but it seems to have more utility than T.O. for the minors. 3♥ is a monster takeout and 3♠ is natural. Duh - do you think you really get to nail them in 2♠? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 2S. If they X it's t/o so has a reasonable chance of working. We play a x of 2♠ here as penalty, but sort of balanced. I'm sure this isn't standard, but it seems to have more utility than T.O. for the minors. 3♥ is a monster takeout and 3♠ is natural. Duh - do you think you real get to nail them in 2♠? So 2S is strong balanced? and 2N is minors? That just seems like an inversion of normal (one that is for the better imo). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 2S. If they X it's t/o so has a reasonable chance of working. We play a x of 2♠ here as penalty, but sort of balanced. I'm sure this isn't standard, but it seems to have more utility than T.O. for the minors. 3♥ is a monster takeout and 3♠ is natural. Duh - do you think you real get to nail them in 2♠? So 2S is strong balanced? and 2N is minors? That just seems like an inversion of normal (one that is for the better imo). Yeah - not sure if I came up with this or not. There was a MSC problem a few years ago that gave you a mountain with spades after 2♥ - p - 2♠. I think some of the panelists suggested that 3♠ needs to be natural, and double meant 'something else'. Inverting 2N and double seems logical on a lot of levels to me anyway. The best reason is it lets my pard play the hand - always a good thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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