DenisO Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 MP both Vul Dealer W who opens 1♦ What do you bid with ♠94 ♥A ♦AKJT6 ♣KJT65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 2C, reluctantly. You are just too strong to pass. Pd will never believe you have this hand if you pass and come in later. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Double, since I play power doubles (15+HCP any hand) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 2♣ seems fair. I just hope pard doesn't "valorize" his 55 majors and keeps on bidding :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestar Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 OK, so partner won't believe me--so what? this hand is a misfit unless partner has clubs, then they will outbid us in a major. I pass and stay out of trouble--and if they happen to blunder into 3m, I'll x and collect enough blood to feed a whole coven of vampires. By the way, I've passed 20 counts in positions like this and came out right--the opponents will not belive you either. More than once, if gotten something like down 2 doubled vulnerable with no game our way when declarer could have made or held it to down 1 if he knew I had all the cards. Can trap passes go wrong? Sure. But so can bidding. Playing Power Doubles, I like double--partner won't assume I have the majors and knowing I have lots of HCP may let him nail them if they have the majors but are getting bad splits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 I risk 2 clubs here. On expectancy, both LHO and partner rate to have 6 HCP each, so I don't anticpate being doubled although it is a risk. Game is not out of the picture opposite a big club fit - even a double game swing. And the 2C overcall of 1D takes a level away from the opponents. My plan is to overcall 2C, then if it goes pass, pass, double, I will bid 2D. This should be natural and if I'm going to play a contract doubled I'd prefer the better of my suits. I would not fault a pass, though. The two things that sway me to bid are the 10 of clubs and the J10 of diamonds. A little bit of a safety net. Winston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 2C. Preempts the majors, keep 3N in play, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 ok, i'm ready to duck and weave... how much trouble would you expect if you bid 1NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 2C for me, makes life hard for the opponents, and keeps 3NT in the picture for us. I would definitely not act when the bidding goes 1D-2C-pass-pass-Double. If partner bids 2H or 2S I will bid 3NT. 1NT is not attractive imo Jimmy. Partner is very likely to have stuff in the majors. I don't like to bid 1NT with 2-2 in the majors (but sometimes you have to), but 2-1? If 1NT get's doubled then partner will certainly run to a major. It could work out fine, but not likely I think. Pass gives up on 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenisO Posted August 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Thanks for replies - poll was conclusive in favour of 2 clubs - which seems OK as it just satisfies Klinger's SQ test of 8 for a 2- level overcall. Power doubles and the Overcall Structure look an interesting read . The full hand was - bidding sequences welcome :) [hv=d=w&v=b&n=s94hadakjt6ckjt65&w=sathj4dq8543caq92&e=sj63h7532d972c743&s=skq8752hkqt986dc8]399|300|Scoring: MP[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 2♣-2♠* (unfortunately non-forcing, wish we played Rubin transfers)3NT-4♥4♠-pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 1♦-pass-pass-4♦pass-4♠ is an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 I like both of these auctions. Either way you should get to 4S. However, I think that partner will have serious slam interest after you make a power double or a 1NT overcall. Helene, I think that these transfers are named after Rubens, not Rubin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 This hand doesn't qualify for a power double, the way most practioners of overcall structure play it. Double is 15+, usually balanced. If the hand is unbalanced, the hand is an absolute monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 I am really surprised: as much as I like the in-quick/out quick principle, is really 2 clubs the "expert bid" holding KJT65 in a suit, when our best suit is the suit bid by opps ? :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 My initial response to this hand was to pass initially and then back in with 2NT to show a strong minor 2-suiter unless something in the bidding indicated that this hand is a total misfit. Playing SAYC or 2/1, the 1D opener could have been a 3-card suit or "better minor". Granted, this approach would not have been without risk. I usually try to avoid overcalling at the 2-level on 5-card suits, especially when I don't have a plausible rebid should partner respond. After reading this discussion, I am still not sure whether or not this tactic or a simple 2 club overcall is the percentage way to handle this type of hand. Overcalling 2Clubs gets me into the bidding but what then? What would I have rebid had partner responded 2M? 2NT? (Where are the tricks coming from?) 3D? (P will take that as some sort of support bid or looking for a diamond stopper.) Any action after 1D-2C-?-2M would be a distortion IMO. And, despite the opening bid, this hand might belong in diamonds! Partner certainly would have let me know about 6-6 in majors, and with all likelihood, we would've played 4S. But one example (N = 1 for you math peoples) does not support or refute much.Perhaps I would've needed more distribution to handle this hand as initially planned and I would've lost had the bidding been at 3 or 4M when it came back to me. Conclusion: I hate this hand and this problem! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 This confirms something I've been noticing for sometime now. Be wary when you hold extreme lenght in a suit AND in opps' suit. In this case pard is very, very likely to hold a 55 (or more) in the other suits and we can't make squat :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 ok, i'm ready to duck and weave... how much trouble would you expect if you bid 1NT? Me too, much as I don't like the off-shape, the stiff is an ace and my pard can easily estimate our chances for play or defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 And the bidding after 1NT is 2H* 2S 4H 4S and does LHO lead a D? Then there goes the fast C loser and here comes the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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