Winstonm Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 [hv=d=n&v=b&s=sq7653h8dkj64ck42]133|100|Scoring: IMPAuction with East/West passing: N S1♥ 1♠2♣ ? You play 4th suit as game forcing. Now what?[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Pass. Must admit I can't imagine another bid, though certainly we could have a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Difficult but I think I'm going to bid 2♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Difficult but I think I'm going to bid 2♦ you're forcing to game on a misfitting 9 count? wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Well, vulnerable at IMPs I think I'd try 2NT. Hopefully partner can take a joke, and maybe opponents will misdefend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 2NT for me, a slight overbid since it shows 10-12 hcp. Could be wrong, but we may still have up to 27 hcp between us (2♣ = 12-18 in my book). The vulnerability at IMPs is too tempting. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Pass. Only alternative is 2NT with is not attractive on a soft misfitting 9-count. Remember, vulnerable also means 100 per trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Pass. Only alternative is 2NT with is not attractive on a soft misfitting 9-count. Remember, vulnerable also means 100 per trick. exactly. When youre going down 3 vul the imp odds change :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Difficult but I think I'm going to bid 2♦ you're forcing to game on a misfitting 9 count? wow. No, I'm going to pass 2nt. But I like a lot a 2♠ or 3♣ rebid by opener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 If you like wierd bidding, you can try a 2♥ "preference", hoping pard can find a final move, to which you'd bid 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 I agree with the general conclusion: pass, and if you really want to bid something, bid 2NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 1) Pass. 2) Don't play 4th suit as GF. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 [hv=d=n&v=b&n=sa8hakqj5d73cj953&w=skj9h109763dq108c86&e=s1042h42da952caq107&s=sq7653h8dkj64ck42]399|300|Scoring: MP[/hv] The full hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 would pass quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Difficult but I think I'm going to bid 2♦ you're forcing to game on a misfitting 9 count? wow. No, I'm going to pass 2nt. But I like a lot a 2♠ or 3♣ rebid by opener. ok so the plan is to GF then pass a forcing bid...got it :0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 2N. But I pass at MPs or nv/imps. 2C is a wide range and I don't want to pass when we could have 25 -27 between the hands. Yes I realize that pard will carry on with a lot 14's. Whereagles idea about the false preference of 2H is less crazy than it sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 I'm surprised somewhat that no one has commented on opener's bidding here. There is some merit to opening the hand 1N instead of 1H when the rebid prospects are to rebid 2C with such a poor suit. Other rebids might be considered at least optional: 2H, emphasizing the suit and overall hand strength, and the second option is the distinct underbid of 1N, taking the low road approach. Going well outside the box, I see another approach to these types of hands - exclusion rebids. On this hand, anyway, the auction 1H-1S-2D (exclusion) would allow the 2S contract to be reached. With only a doubleton as support, opener should not move toward game. Other hands might be equally bid profitably this way: AJ10xx, Kxx, AQxx, x.1S-1N-2C (exclusion) When you are searching for a fit, you can only bid 1 but excluding 1 shows the other 2. I know, I know. SERIOUSLY WEIRD. ;) Winston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 I'm changing my answer to Pass. This aceless, misfitting 9 count with secondary honors opposite pards shortness is really a ***d. 2N while it might be right, rates to get us to an abysmal 3N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Pass unless 2C is forcing. Yes, I was wondering, too, why P didn't open with 1NT albeit off-shape. Probably wind up in either 2S or 2NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Pass unless 2C is forcing. Yes, I was wondering, too, why P didn't open with 1NT albeit off-shape. Probably wind up in either 2S or 2NT. How many true world class players open 1nt off shape with this hand...solid hearts and 5-4 in major, minor? Your comments sound as if 1nt is the obvious expert bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 I wouldn't open 1NT with this, but I'd rebid 1NT for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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