Dragan Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 In favourable position(ops vul, we are not) seating at 4'th seat you hold [hv=v=o&s=sxxxhjxdkxxxcxxxx]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] You see Pass 2♦* X , and it is up to you for bid. *=2♦ is weak two in one major ( conservative style) My pd bid 4♥, approving that they had at least game. I think contrary from next reasons in preference order1. His hand is balance2. We had about 1+1/2 trick in defence3. If they had slam or game our premt will not stop themMy choice is simply 2♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 2H for me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 2H for me too. 4H leaves the opponents only winning options. With hands that can take 7 tricks opposite this junk I would not open 2D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 Oops please someone delete this double post... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 Especially if X was a nebolous "card-showing" double, I like 3♥. Usually vulnerability is not THAT much of a concern for me when raising preempts, as partner took it into account already when opening. But having opened in second seat, he will still have a rather pure weak two (esp. given the "conservative style").Over 3♥, opponents may still misjudge whether to take the safe plus in 3♥X, the one in 3NT/4♠, or to explore for a slam. Of course, it can also be -800 against a slam they would never bid, but well... Arend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 normally I'd bid 2♥, and the only alternative imo is 3♥. 4♥ is crazy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 3 to me, 2♠ to jam the bidding can be right as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 I have a question, please. I have not played multi or minimult, so I ask to learn. Why is Pass not an option on this hand? Why would not Pass deny a top heart honor while bidding 2H [or 3H] (which I assume is pass or correct) show a top heart honor? P rates to be on lead based on the bidding so far. TYIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfgauss Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 I have a question, please. I have not played multi or minimult, so I ask to learn. Why is Pass not an option on this hand? Why would not Pass deny a top heart honor while bidding 2H [or 3H] (which I assume is pass or correct) show a top heart honor? P rates to be on lead based on the bidding so far. TYIAMost play that passing 2Dx shows diamonds and partner will usually pass. This increases safety (helps you stay out of 6-0 fits and the like) and perhaps puts more pressure on the opps (they have fewer options & must act now). Some sort of lead direction being built in instead seems like an ok idea. Note that bidding 2!S would say you like hearts (but only want to play 2!S opposite spades), so 2!H being lead directing for hearts is a bit funny. If something is going to be lead directing, I'd recommend pass: then you still play the hand in the more likely event that you're not lead directing, and also advancer is more likely to play the contract when you are (since must bid now [edit -- this doesn't make any sense]). As for whether it should be lead directing for hearts or spades, dunno. Actually, a thought occurs to me: if you lead direct for a suit presumably you've got something like Qx. What if this is not pard's suit? Then you've located a card for the opponents (e.g. give pard xxx ... I suppose this isn't so terrible since usually they'll finesse you for stuff, but it's still something and what if they count out the hand and find pard is 3-6-2-2 and decide the Queen is more likely to be with the length). Something to keep in mind. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 I play pass as 'transfer your Major' -> RDbl = ♥, 2♥ = ♠. So it's an option. But I don't want to do that, since it gives opponents another round of bidding possibilities, and it doesn't take away any bidding space. Compare (in case of ♥): 2♦ - Dbl - 2/3♥ - ...pass - ... 2♦ - Dbl - Pass! - ...RDbl - ... - 2♥ - ...pass - ... "..." means opps can bid something. So you see, opponents both get 2 more possibilities to bid, and since I'm weak, I don't want to give them too much opportunities to explore for the best contract, since it's their hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Some play rdbl as "partner, bid ur suit". Then 2♥ shows willingness to play at least 3♠ if that's partner's suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 thanks for the responses. like i said, i don't know the convention very well, and i suspect that my idea of lead direction was based on wk2s where the suit is already known. I sincerely appreciate the explanations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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