tactics

[42]

Hi!

 

This hand made me think about best tactics here, my decision led to no good result...

 

[hv=d=w&v=n&n=s5hqj9da9854caq95&w=skj42h104dkq76cj103&e=sq1098763ha752d3c4&s=sahk863dj102ck8762]399|300|Scoring: MP

Bidding:

pass 1♦ 1♠ Dbl

Rdbl 2♣ pass 2♠! (Cue)

3♠ pass pass 4♣

pass 5♣ all pass

 

Lead: ♦3, 11 tricks

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Experts, what do you bid with my hand (W)?

1. Rdbl let them too much space for exchange...

2. What about 3♦ as fit-showing jump although RHO opened 1♦? That is the bid my partner likes the most because it shows values and fit and takes bidding space. I thought about that before I redoubled, but decided against it because I did not like KQ in front of opener with only 4 ♦ cards.

3. I decided also against 3♠ because imo I have a better than preemptive hand and want to show it.

 

Judgement is so difficult! *sigh*

 

tia,

Caren

[luis]

I think I hate the redouble but I hate the 1♠ bid more, I think with 7411 East can just bid 4♠ after all he has a 4♠ opening in his hand so why not bid 4♠?

I would have bid 2♦ instead of XX as a way to invite to 4♠.

[Guest Jlall]

i like 2D limit plus. I would also try 4S with the east hand...3S is ok...1 jsut feels wrong

[pigpenz]

i would bid 3♦ the way i play it is the same way justin plays 2♦

[Fluffy]

1♠ is awful choice IMO.

 

lets see how the bid after 1♦-(3♠)-??-(4♠).

[mike777]

Agree 4s not 1s

In general discard 90% of your redoubles and just bid your hand to the limit.

[whereagles]

I don't think you pushed them to game - they would reach it anyway. Still, redouble isn't good tactics because with a nice fit it's usually better to make some noise. For instance, the 3♦ fit-bid seems quite nice. The 1♠ overcall was a few levels below par, but I guess that's a matter of style :huh:

[pclayton]

Dont like the xx - its vague and usually denies a fit.

 

If 3♦ available as a 4 card limit raise, thats best. Seems if opener has to guess to bid clubs at the 4 level (heck I wouldn't :huh: ), thats our best shot at buying the hand in 4♠.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

4S over 1D, and after that we will see how they cope.

 

Instead of the RDBL, I would prefer 2D, which shows

the fit and some strength.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[mikeh]

I can understand the 1♠, since 4♠ may work out poorly and no in-between ♠ bid makes sense. I would 100% bid 4♠ at favourable, and would be inclined to do it here, but I do not believe that 1♠ is awful. The fact that my second suit is ♥ plays a role, since it makes their game chances less clear.

 

I strongly disagree with redouble.

 

Bidding space is a significant issue, and with the west hand, you can forsee the need to consume space.

 

Also, for related reasons, I prefer to use redouble to show Hx of ♠ where H is A/K (and in some partnerships, may be Q) and some cards but not enough to make any other more descriptive/preemptive bid. This treatment greatly helps partner in leading... if you redouble, he can safely lead from a broken sequence, and if you pass, he knows to lead something else. That is worth the small additional bidding space afforded to the opps by your redouble.

 

A fit-showing jump, for me, shows 9+ cards in the suits, so I would not do it: and any temptation I have to stretch is reduced by the fact that North opened 1♦.

 

So I fall back on whatever shows a good raise: for me, 2♥, transfer. If unavailable, 2♦... a cue by a passed hand must logically be based on a fit.

 

East should 100% bid 4♠ on this sequence, no matter what N does.

 

North probably bids 3♣ anyway, but if playing good/bad, may try 2N and over 4♠ they may go wrong (but don't hold your breath). The odds are that competent opps will reach 5♣. However, some imaginative North's might squeak 2♥, hoping that partner holds 5♥ or that the moysian plays well. Now we are in business ;)

[Walddk]

you can forsee the need to consume space.

Do you mean foresee as in predict? Spullung iz az dificolt az commas and periods.

 

Roland

[inquiry]

Redouble would never occur to me with your hand, I have support.

 

1♠ would never occur to me opposite a passed hand partner (while it might, if he was an unpassed hand). Being not vul, I would probably bid just overcall 4♠.

 

With west, after the negative double, I will trott out whatever is my good raise for the auction so far, although I am a little skeptical that the KQ of diamonds is a great deal for me on this auction.

[42]

Thank you all for your answers, very helpfull to me! I see now why my RDBL was bad. When I made it, I gave it a longer thought (most of the time the result is worse than a fast decision...), the intention was more or less to pretend another holding to frighten the opps, which was a shot in my own knee. I was too much focused on where the ♥s were and that I had the chef suit to bid on. If I could do it all again, my choice would of course be 2♦ since we do not play transfer in this situation.

I asked my p (who is a very experienced player) why he did not immediately bid 4♠: mikeh and he used nearly the same words ;)

Caren