Winstonm Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 [hv=d=s&v=n&n=s32ha62dkq3ca8632&s=saj10854h3d1084ckq4]133|200|Scoring: IMPHow often do you feel lost with the above type North hand when partner opens a weak 2 bid ahead of you? This problem plagued me for years and I found no current system of responses truly satisfactory - all the methods seemed intent on reaching 3NT, not the most logical contract - so I set out to find a better way through the "Mother of invention" - necessity. The end product, "Losing Trick Count over Weak Two Bids", will be published soon in The Bridge World. Me, a Bridge World author. Amazing. Who would of thunk it? Winston[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 [hv=d=s&v=n&n=s32ha62dkq3ca8632&s=saj10854h3d1084ckq4]133|200|Scoring: IMPHow often do you feel lost with the above type North hand when partner opens a weak 2 bid ahead of you? This problem plagued me for years and I found no current system of responses truly satisfactory - all the methods seemed intent on reaching 3NT, not the most logical contract - so I set out to find a better way through the "Mother of invention" - necessity. The end product, "Losing Trick Count over Weak Two Bids", will be published soon in The Bridge World. Me, a Bridge World author. Amazing. Who would of thunk it? Winston[/hv] What weak 2 bid? Easy one spade opener! Take away the K of clubs, now you have a maximum weak 2 spade bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elianna Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 [hv=d=s&v=n&n=s32ha62dkq3ca8632&s=saj10854h3d1084ckq4]133|200|Scoring: IMPHow often do you feel lost with the above type North hand when partner opens a weak 2 bid ahead of you? This problem plagued me for years and I found no current system of responses truly satisfactory - all the methods seemed intent on reaching 3NT, not the most logical contract - so I set out to find a better way through the "Mother of invention" - necessity. The end product, "Losing Trick Count over Weak Two Bids", will be published soon in The Bridge World. Me, a Bridge World author. Amazing. Who would of thunk it? Winston[/hv] What weak 2 bid? Easy one spade opener! Take away the K of clubs, now you have a maximum weak 2 spade bid. Completely agree. This would never be my idea of a weak two openner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 [hv=d=s&v=n&n=s32ha62dkq3ca8632&s=saj10854h3d1084ckq4]133|200|Scoring: IMPHow often do you feel lost with the above type North hand when partner opens a weak 2 bid ahead of you? This problem plagued me for years and I found no current system of responses truly satisfactory - all the methods seemed intent on reaching 3NT, not the most logical contract - so I set out to find a better way through the "Mother of invention" - necessity. The end product, "Losing Trick Count over Weak Two Bids", will be published soon in The Bridge World. Me, a Bridge World author. Amazing. Who would of thunk it? Winston[/hv] What weak 2 bid? Easy one spade opener! Take away the K of clubs, now you have a maximum weak 2 spade bid.As usual it is partnership agreement that sets the range. LTC/W2 can be adjusted to accomodate most normal ranges. There are arguments for both opening 1 or 2 with the South hand - the main one for 2S being IMO that over 2S-3H-? North is better placed to make a decision - based on range of the weak two, the seat in which it was opened, and the vulnerability - and is able to guage fairly accurately what the hand opposite looks like. But opinions are like personality flaws - we better tolerate our own. :) Winston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 Hi Winston, That's a bit weird as Jeff Goldsmith has had an article on his website for a long time talking about using losing trick count after a weak 2 bid. http://www.gg.caltech.edu/~jeff/system/september Maybe yours is a bit different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 I suspect that many will open 1♠ with that hand, but it's also quite common to open it a weak two (either Multi or 2♠), especially vulnerable. The issue is whether weak two's should be constructive or destructive. If a weak two can be both, it's virtually impossible for responder to judge. If on the other hand you can distinguish between the constructive and destructive type, you will be much better off, and that is why many top pairs in Europe in recent years have adopted both. They let 2MA be constructive and 2♦ Multi be destructive (including a 5-card suit). I have tried this method on a few occasions with some partners and haven't been disappointed yet. Another advantage is that 1♥ and 1♠ will now be a sound opening if the subsequent auction reveals that opener has a 6-card suit. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 Winston: Its an OK idea in principle. I played this from 2001 -2002 (got it from Jeff's site) and got mixed results, but that might have been from the fact we threw 5 baggers into the mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 Winston: Its an OK idea in principle. I played this from 2001 -2002 (got it from Jeff's site) and got mixed results, but that might have been from the fact we threw 5 baggers into the mix.Probably so. I ran a lot of simulations and found that there is a distinct difference between the requirements to make a game try depending on the the fit. Throwing an occassional 5 card suit in would skew the results badly I'm afraid. Certainly this is not for everyone - but for anyone who plays a consistent weak 2 bid, that is either always 6 cards or alwyas 5 cards, the cover card requirements can be adjusted to fit the range. I didn't know anyone else had even proposed the idea - I was just somewhat amazed that Bridge World thought it worthy of publishing. Winston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 congrats on getting published. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 congrats on getting published.Thanks, Dude. Congrats on being a World Champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 No matter I agree it is a weak 2 or not, getting article published in BW worths three cheers. Regarding the hand, I have no problem with 2S when we are red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 And Winston, don't hold your breath on WHEN it gets pubbed. I had my article accepted NINE months ago. Still waiting - but September hasn't arrived yet.:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 Winston, don't hold your breath on WHEN it gets published. I've been waiting for 9 months now since "Juijitsu at Bridge" got pubbed :(. September should be in the mail by now however. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 Winston, don't hold your breath on WHEN it gets published. I've been waiting for 9 months now since "Juijitsu at Bridge" got pubbed :). September should be in the mail by now however. :) Congrats on your article as well. I'll look for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 congrats on getting published.Thanks, Dude. Congrats on being a World Champion. Thx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Sometimes I really HATE my Blackberry LOL :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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