Is there a better bid?

[jillybean]

[hv=d=e&v=a&n=sat82h5dt6caqt972&w=sj976ha4dk952cj43&e=skq53hk7daq843ck6&s=s4hqjt98632dj7c85]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv]

 

West North East South

 

 -     -     1♦    4♥

 Dbl   Pass  Pass  Pass

 

 

 

I could have bid 1♥ and kept on bidding ♥'s perhaps, what is best here?

 

My pickup (expert) partner said I should have passed, I didn't feel too bad - we went -2 for 67% :D

 

tyia

jb

[Elianna]

It would never have occurred to me not to bid 4♥ (then again, I'm a junior, it almost never occurs to me not to preempt!)

[luis]

Passing would have been idiotic to say the least.

I fully agree with your 4♥ bid, you did well.

[Free]

You went -2 for -500 (I hope so) while opps have an easy 4♠= for -620. So wtp?

 

4♥ is excelent, 3♥ is the only alternative imo.

[jillybean]

Hmm it was MP, not sure how it was converted to IMP here.

[whereagles]

3H or 4H, depending on how lucky you feel, is pretty obvious. At least to me.. lol.

 

Passing is a just cause for firing that "expert" :D

[pbleighton]

4H every single time.

 

Peter

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

4H, at worst you go for 800, in which case they

are headed at least for 600, i.e. you loose 200,

no big deal at IMP's.

 

There are times, they cant make anything, and 4H

will be a pphantom safe, but thats the price you pay

for making their life difficult.

 

Regarding the score you got: those scores are most

of the times meaningless, unless you play in a strong

tournament, what ever that means.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

 

Edited: Missed the vulnerability and cant subtract 3 from 7,

3H is enough, at least at this vulnerability, 4H is ok with green versus

red. It's late in the evening.

[mike777]

It seems the forum posters have missed the title question :D.

 

Strongly disagree, yes there is a "better bid"

 

Opp bid 4S, x of 4h is takeout. Your expert partner seems to have missed the real lesson on this hand :) :). If he/she is going to teach you, then at least point out the main lesson point of this hand.

[jillybean]

Good point! :D

[pclayton]

3♥ is the book bid with 6 tricks, but I admire 4♥, since it has a better chance of burying the spades. If I had some spade length, I'd go slow with 3♥.

 

Hard to say whats going to happen to 3♥. It will either buy the pot or let them find 4♠.

 

4♥ worked out great.

[Walddk]

4♥ is fine with me (need a partner?), unless you have the agreement with your partner that you must have a trick more at this vulnerability, then only 3♥.

 

Let's take the worst scenario: partner does not have a single trick for you. Then you go for 1100, but if that is the case the opponents will almost always be able to score 1370, 1430 or 1440, and quite often even 2140, 2210 or 2220.

 

Conceding a phone number is not always a disaster. It can actually turn out to be a very good board. So keep bidding 4♥ with that hand is my advice!

 

Roland

[Double !]

agree with 4 hearts: you do have 8 of them. P will never play you for 8 hearts if you bid only 3H.

[luke warm]

4h was a gutsy bid, i'd probably have bid only 3... beware of free lessons given by expert pick up partners :o ...

[Double !]

beware of free lessons given by expert pick up partners :o ...

ain't that the truth!

[the hog]

4H or 3H is fine Kathryn. Passing is not, but neither is bidding 1H and rebidding Hs, which woulld show a stronger hand.

[coyot]

It all depends on agreements. If you agreements say bid 4♥ each time you have 8card and bid 3♥ each time you have 7card, then it is OK.

 

If your agreements say that you (usually) follow the 3-2-1 or 4-3-2 or 5-3-3-2 rule, bidding 4♥ is one or two tricks above what you should bid.

 

If your bid promises that vul.vs vul. you will go down 3 against yarborough, partner might want to defend 4♠ with 5♥ if he contributes 2 tricks (5♥ would then be down 2 for +120).

 

So, on this particular hand, you were lucky :-), but unless your agreements with partner cover 4♥ with 7 losers red vs. red, you may be in for a few bad scores :).

 

(I would bid 3♥ on this hand as it lacks shape... give me 74 with minor and the same honor cards and I will bid 4♥ :))

 

But, certainly, don't listen to an "expert" that says you should have passed - that is nonsense... the only question is, how high do you jump :)

[mgtusi]

Hello,

 

Was it MP or IMPS ? You speak about 67 %, so I guess it was MP's ( :) ) !

 

4 ♥ at MP is the right bid, IMHO.

 

At IMPs, you need a better vulnerability (white vs black)