I think I should go to the bottom of the class

[sceptic]

[hv=d=w&v=a&n=saqhaq32dqj763ck7&w=sj9764hdat9842cq5&e=st85h8765dk5cj963&s=sk32hkjt94dcat842]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv]

 

West North East South

 

 2♠    3NT   Pass  4♥

 Pass  Pass  Pass  

 

 

 

 

 

look what we missed, a few questions

 

1/. what do you need to bid 3NT over weak 2

 

2/. should I x

 

3/. should p do more

 

4/. what do you think of this weak two

 

5/. anything else I missed

 

Thanks

[luke warm]

1) i think west's 2s was ... very manly (define that however you want)

2) with north i'd bid 2nt over 2s

3) with south (systems on) i'd bid 3d after 2nt (xfer) then 4c over 3h, showing a good hand with slam interest..

4) after (2s) 2nt (p) 3d (p) 3h (p) 4c i'd expect north to bid 4s but he might not.. if he bid 4h, i'd pass

 

but on the actual bidding i think i'd bid 6nt over 3nt, and if it was wrong tell partner i thought he had ___________ (whatever it takes to justify my 6nt)

[the hog]

I can't really add anything to what Jimmy has written, though I would prefer to X rather than bid 2/3 NT

[Flame]

after north overbid of 3NT sounth must get to atleast small slam no mater what way.

If u arent sure of ur system, bid 5S to ask partner to bid 6. he bid 6d showing short clubs and now u correct to 6h or maybe since u know he is short in club , he must have some hearts maybe u can bid 7.

Anyway no matter what u cant stop short of slam after 3nt bid.

[coyot]

Agree with slam against 3NT.

 

2♠-2NT is something like 15-18... 19-21 would be via double and 22-25 would be directly....

[paulg]

1/. what do you need to bid 3NT over weak 2

 

Generally 2NT shows 15-18 points over a weak 2. 3NT tends to show a stronger balanced hand, perhaps 21+, or a hand that expects to make 3NT with a running minor.

 

2/. should I x

No, I reckon 2NT is the best bid.

 

3/. should p do more

Yes, probably starting with 4♠. Partner should also NOT do what he did (see 5.)

 

4/. what do you think of this weak two

Irregular, and losing bridge in the long run.

 

5/. anything else I missed

Generally your partner should not be disturbing a 3NT call to a 5-card major as there is no guarantee of a fit. In this case the 3NT bidder could easily hold solid diamonds, stiff heart ace and ♠AQ.

 

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[han]

1/. what do you need to bid 3NT over weak 2

 

I like to play that 3NT always shows tricks, not points. With balanced 15-18 bid 2NT, if you have more start with a double.

 

2/. should I x

 

I prefer 2NT but double is not insane.

 

3/. should p do more

 

Yes. If you have agreed to play systems on then this hand should be easy: 4D followed by 6C, let partner pick.

 

4/. What do you think of this weak 2

 

I have made bids like this at favorable vulnerability (perhaps my spade suit was a bit better, but 5-6 is ok). When vulnerable it would never cross my mind.

[Fluffy]

1/. what do you need to bid 3NT over weak 2

 

There is a variety of hands that can bid 3NT, remember bidding 3NT almost always will cause partner trouble if he has unbalanced hand. So try to avoid if double won't be a big pain.

 

2/. should I x

 

x is not perfect, as no bid is, doubling with a balanced hand you are considering your hand worth 20 HCP or so, I agree with that since 5c suit is good, and ♠Q can be upgraded, the problem is, X can be your last bid, and you won't know what to do if either partner bids 4♥ or 5x after 4♠.

 

3/. should p do more

 

Very hard to say, I would rather pass than bid 4♥.

 

4/. what do you think of this weak two

 

It worked pretty well, I won't argue with success.

 

5/. anything else I missed

 

Not that I notice now.

[awm]

1/. What do you need to bid 3NT over weak 2?

 

Well, a hand that expects to make 3NT. With a balanced hand this is more than the 18 hcp maximum for 2NT. Frequently it's a running minor plus a stopper. I don't think that a direct 3NT should show a different range than X followed by 3NT. Rather, the double followed by 3NT shows some interest in playing in the other major (three cards there at a minimum) whereas a direct 3NT tends to deny such interest (balanced with doubleton, or some off-shape thing with a minor).

 

2/. Should I X?

 

I much prefer double to 3NT, as this hand could easily play best in hearts. You will not be happy if LHO has a good long club suit and the diamond ace, and partner shows up with 4-5♥ when you declare 3NT! A 2NT overcall is also possible, but I think this hand has a lot of potential opposite something like xxx Kxxx Kxx xxx, and I'm pretty sure you're not getting to game after 2NT. The second spade stopper, 5-card diamond suit, and chance of a heart fit make your hand a bit too good for 2NT in my opinion.

 

3/. Should p do more?

 

Certainly partner should be afraid of the possibility that you have seven "running" diamonds (which might not even run opposite the void) along with a spade card. 4♥ seems wrong to me (this should show a weaker hand and a lot more hearts). Perhaps the best call is 4♠, asking you to bid your minor (if any), planning to raise 4NT to 6NT and pass 5♦. Obviously this plan of action won't work opposite the real hand, but in part this is because I expect 3NT to deny such good heart support.

 

4/. What do you think of the weak two?

 

Frisky, but with 5-6 shape such bids work out more often than not. Personally I'd be more tempted to try a weak 2♦ followed by a spade rebid.